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continuing: for feces, instead of a pad, i have wipes - dry wipes that are fairly large unfolded sorry i don’t remembet the brand name but they are available on line in a case of 600 i think. using one or two i place them in the pullup when they are half way pulled up and carefully pull the pullup the rest of the way and make sure the wipe/wipes are still neatly flat and fully covering the entire necessary area of the interior of the pullup. that way the whole mess can be neatly lifted out of still clean pullups once i’ve gotten to work. then flush it away. you have to make sure to not stuff the toilet. flush several times, break up tear up solid matter etc. if this procedure isn’t clear, please feel free to ask and i will explain better. but its just been in the past few months that i’ve been finessing this to an art! it is still nothing great. and for loose stool, it is hit or miss. but mostly i do it this way because i just can’t do the bundle up thing. can’t won’t don’t. thats me. this is life.