Will you share your voice with us?

Thank you so much for your advise. I have tried just about every meds you can take and a couple kinds of surgery. and nothing helps. There is not much research on incontinence, Drs know very little also about it. That's why I am so upset. I think they don't know what to do or say except its not normal. How can I accept that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
NAFC is a valuable resource. It is the only website / forum that I have found that does not censor it's users which is very rare. It allows an individual to have an interchange with others that are also coping with urological issues. The people of NAFC and the users of the forum are not like 99 % of other websites and forums. They are genuine good people trying to help each other.
 
@colin13 Yes you are right that people who have not experienced it don't have a clue and don't get me started on the so called "professionals" and "specialist" making 6 figures to do nothing. Forget about doctors. Put your faith in God. And may God sustain and bless you.
 
Huey i sent a message with a referral for doctor for my relative in Ft Worth. Not a specialist but might be better than what youve dealt with i dont know
 
MayMay,

Thank you for your thoughtfulness. I do appreciate your help. God bless you for reaching out to help me.
 
Thanks everyone for your advice, I love the fact you can vent and get some of ones frustations out in the open, HueyHuckabee thanks for telling me to put my faith in God. I try to do thatand it helps most the time, but sometimes when a person is down, we just have to get it out in the open. Woith the holidays coming up the stress will make my bladder worse and I guess thats what is upsetting me. I have tried tried and gone to 3 Drs with not much help, I am going back to one the first week in Dec. and hopefully I get some help. Thans again
 
Sorry, here comes a novel:

I like that NAFC presents all of this stuff in a non-stigmatized way. I found the site very informative at the beginning of my journey and it helped immensely to know that I was not so alone. The message board area is a huge help too...sometimes it just feels good to talk to others with similar problems.

One area I wish NAFC, and really the entire medical community would improve upon is how it handles men's issues. I'm a 38 year old man with OAB and urge incontinence that is not at all related to my prostate. Almost EVERY online resource about mens incontinence says prostate prostate prostate...if OAB it's still probably prostate related to bladder outlet obstruction. NO. My prostate is FINE. I have OAB...the same kind of idiopathic, probably nerve related, OAB that women get. But there's almost nothing anywhere online that discusses non-prostate related OAB in men.

Another example. Go to any drugstore in the incontinence aisle. There are 20 different products for women and like 3 for men. Women can chose from 5 or more brands or styles of pullups, always, depends, tena and store brand in my area. Men? Depend and store brand. Why?

Even the NAFC 'Mens Conditions' page completely fails to mention OAB. Why? as many as 16% of men have OAB, yet it's absent from the mens conditions page....Yet if you go to the OAB page on NAFC, it does acknowledge that men get it.

As a man with OAB, it's almost like having another layer of stigma because OAB is seen as a predominantly woman's problem....And the stats certainly indicate that it's more common in women, but in no way is it a woman only problem.

I read a journal article recently where the urologist author did make a point to suggest that automatically assuming prostate for men with OAB/urge incon is probably leading to a lot of misdiagnosis and faulty treatment paths, but so much more light needs to be shed on this.


Additionally, I want to talk about diapers. Most online resources don't even mention diapers/pads/absorbent products as a treatment option. NAFC does so kudos....but the diaper stigma needs to go. Seriously. All the OAB treatments talk about behavior mods (guess what, they don't work unless you have very minor symptoms), meds (guess what, they have horrible side effects for a lot of people and/or DO NOT WORK for many of us), nerve stim (again, bad efficacy...even with significant symptom improvement, it's effectively no different to me if I have a wetting accident 10 times a day or 3.....I'll still need to wear protection all day every day.), and lastly invasive surgery (bladder augmentation has tons of complications, and still won't cure most people....and urinary diversion tell me how a stoma and pee bag is better than a diaper).

Point is, it's like the whole medical community refuses to even acknowledge diapers as a long term solution. Of course a medical goal should be a cure and the goal should definitely be to get people out of diapers. I agree with that 100%.....but for so many people that have not had any luck with medical treatments, all the articles just stop at that point. There's no medical opinion in any article that says, "and hey if none of these work for you there are many products available blah blah blah". This just makes the diaper stigma so much worse and makes people who NEED to wear them feel even more ashamed because they are made to feel like they shouldn't be using them.

I'm just so sick of the anti diaper mentality and how it's not ever even discussed as a valid method to manage long term. I've tried everything almost except invasive surgery and I'm done with it. I wear diapers, i live well, and because of them I have my problem under control. Diapers are the ONLY THING I've ever tried for my incontinence that actually gave me a feeling of control.
 
Thank you so much for your feedback Mike - it is truly very helpful! We will work to do a better job of addressing men's issues more on this site - we agree that it is under-represented and have long wanted to make improvements. We are a very small staff so we can't always get to everything right away, but it will be a goal for 2020.

Best, NAFC
 
Hey, belated Thanksgiving. You all have been such a welcome resource and always respond to my queries quickly!
I did really like Mikejames comment on diapers as an accepted treatment . Life is actually short and tormenting ones self with medical tests to end up in doapers with a word to describe ones condition is long.
Having this place to share user information of every type of medical and pallative care, personal self acceptance is a huge help.
 
So right Phil, i love to hear of brave souls forging ahead despite different bodies than what we thought we'd ever have.
 
Very well written. My incontinence now is only at night, with rare daytime issues. I use cloth diapers and plastic pants. Much cheaper in the long run.
 
I just found this site. I am a 62 year old man who has had intermittent bed wetting incidents since childhood. As an adult, I can go 6 months or more without an incident and then I might wet the bed 1 or 2 nights in a row. Sometimes I wake up to go to the bathroom and still wet the bed an hour or 2 later.

My family doctor and my urologist looked at me like I had 2 heads and had no suggestions or solutions. My urologist did find that I have a very large prostate. Other than that nothing was done.

Any suggestions or similar circumstances?
 
@NAFC

glad you found my post useful...Also, I think NAFC is one of the only sites that covers mens stuff pretty well, so wasn't trying to knock you...You guys do AMAZING work and I'm so grateful for it.

I stumbled across this site when my bladder problems started, and it helped me IMMENSELY. Your non stigmatized approach to absorbent products helped SO MUCH when I came to the realization that they would be part of my management approach.
 
Thank you NAFC - wonderful site for helpful information and a great group of individuals from around the world who share similar issues.
Thank you for over the years help me and countless others who suffer with urinary and bowel issues.
 
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