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@Hbic60 There is no such thing as gender equality in America, and unfortunately this is mostly an American forum, and it’s based in America. In America, women don’t even have the legal right to earn as much money as men. African-American MEN could vote 150 years before any woman in American could. I’m not saying there’s anything wrong with African-Americans voting; I’m a huge fan of racial equality. I’m just saying that given that women comprise 52% of the population of this country and an even greater percentage when the entire global population is counted, we women should be considered at least equal, if not *more* than equal, to men in every regard.

Again, you’re with the other men who don’t want to split the group. All you need to know is that the women do want our own group! I venture to say it’s none of the mens’ business if the women have their own group or not. Not one woman has said she doesn’t want a private group, but most of the men have said they don’t want to have a private group because they don’t understand female needs in any way. I guess the men don’t need a private group then; fine, I could care less. But the women NEED our own group.

 

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@Kathylp The oral pill of estrogen has the highest rate of incurring cancer, and even then it’s only a 2% higher risk. The cream is a 1% increased risk, but given that it also prevents evil prolapse, I think it’s likely worth it. The transdermal patch only adds 1/2% chance of incurring cancer and that can be even further lowered by simultaneously taking low-dose birth control like Yaz or Yasmin/Ocella. Given that I already have Osteopenia in the few years since that I’ve been in Premature Menopause, I’m absolutely going to take my Estrogen and birth control, which are both part of the total hormone replacement package.

I think it’s great that you’re receiving Botox now; I know it’s not a walk in the park. I’m glad it helps. Please let me know what your urologist recommends about estrogen. My daytime urinary frequency and my overall nighttime leaks both decreased when I started taking it.

How nice to share female discourse for a change.

 

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Snow, thank you so much for all this information. I will let you know what my Urologist says after I see her tomorrow. I really had no idea what the percentages were for this drug to cause cancer. I pretty much stay away from meds, only because none of them seem to work.

 

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@Kathylp I don’t take meds that don’t help. Estrogen helps prevent about 60% of my hot flashes; depends on the time of the year. Weirdly, I get more, and worse ones, during the winter even though our summer temps are pretty close to 100’F most days.

Have you seen this hilarious commercial for Estroven?

I’ve never seen it in the store but since I take Rx treatments, I figure they’re likely stronger than an OTC med - another question for my doctor.

 

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Snow are you having hot flashes over a long time? I didn't know it was continuing

 

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Good one Snow.

 

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@Maymay941 My menopause hot “flashes” come on in a flash but last for hours. I get sooooooo hot. Even though I don’t typically sweat, my hair gets totally soaking wet - and I live in the desert, where water evaporates rapidly. I hate hot flashes so bad. They make me feel nauseous and queasy. My face turns bright red and will stay red even after the “flash” goes away. They’re embarrassing. I can’t cool down unless I go outside in the winter, but in the summer, it’s much harder. I have to stick my face directly in a fan for about an hour, or like I said, the freezer. Even if I hold completely still and sit down, I still stay so hot. I’ve always hated feeling hot for any reason and much prefer to feel cold over feeling hot. I can easily hang out in 40°F weather without a coat and not be bothered. My preference for the cold has enabled my snowsports-filled life. Unfortunately, the time I get the most and worst hot flashes is during sleep, which is yet another thing to add to my chronic insomnia, on top of Nocturia. It doesn’t matter how low I have the air conditioning on, or how far open my window is in the dead of winter, or how thin my nightgown is, or the quantity of blankets I have on top of me, the hot flashes are totally unpredictable. They soak my entire king bed way farther - the entire bed! - than any time I’ve had a diaper leak or even an incident before I wore diapers. I used to be able to go for a while without washing my hair, but now because I get hot flashes at night, forget it, my hair gets totally gross and tangled.

I’m soooooo sick of menopause. I’m sick of being awake all night and tired during the day. I have some extent of cognitive impairment, though I’m not sure if that’s from having COVID in 2020-2021 for 5.5 months or from menopause. My depression got worse again after menopause. I became more pessimistic. Now I have a headache every day by 6:00 p.m., and though that could be from herniated discs in my neck and too much working, it didn’t start until after menopause so I think it’s because of menopause. I know for a fact that my estrogen, androgen, and testosterone levels are messed up, despite hormone replacement therapy. My thyroid levels are normal but I have a hard time believing that. These are the primary reasons I’m going to an endocrinologist about two months from now, along with needing to get some advice about Osteopenia meds.

 

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@Maymay941 In case you meant hot how many years have I been having hot flashes because of menopause, it’s been 4.3 years.

 

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Snow, your menopause sounds horrific. I would go crazy if I got that hot. Wish I could offer some help.
Update on my Urologist visit today. I haven’t picked it up yet, but she ordered a new hormone medicine that is a cream and will be put together by a compound pharmacy. When I pick it up, hopefully tomorrow, I will let you know the name and contents. My Urologist said there is no chance of cancer attributable to this new med.

 

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That's great Kathylp!
Is the hormone cream supposed to help with incontinence??

 

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The hormone cream is suppose to help with the frequency as well as any pain I may still have since my Botox. She mixes the Botox with Ketermine now. Not sure of the spelling of it.

 

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Thanks Maymay.

 

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@snow
I have not been on much because of working from home. OAB can be managed if the bathroom is one room away. I should have came in here to participate and be more supportive. My bad. We all have issues both men and women. I guess I am fortunate that I have not received private chats.

 

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Glad you came on to comment Melanie! It's understandable we sometimes don't feel the need to be involved in the forum but it's good to hear from you

 

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@Kathylp Excellent News about the new cream; I hope it may help!

Ketamine

 

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@melanie Thank you very much just for showing up to acknowledge us

 

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@snow Oh snow! What a horror show! - Because we live in California and only saw my NY family once a year. I got to see just a part of my Mother's menopause. We would be together doing something and she would say "Pammy look at me" Her face would would be bright pink, and absolutely GLISTENING. Her and my Dad were constantly arguing over the thermostat. - My oldest sister was like you. Bad night sweats and changing the sheets. My other sister had a hysterectomy and like you went into instant menopause. She did the hormone therapy which did help.- My husband and I purposely waited to have kids. Good and bad. By the time I started menopause, we had two teenage girls with their own hormones in high gear. - I REALLY should have done the math! - Hot flashes came later for me and were tolerable. However, I turned into this crazy woman. I knew in my head what was happening, but I couldn't seem to get a handle on it. I constantly felt like I was going to jump out of my skin. Upset over nothing then fine. - My husband would call our youngest on his way home from work and ask "How's the weather?" I would be fine, but by the time he got home - not fine. My husband and youngest daughter were amazingly tolerant, though she didn't completely understand it. My oldest daughter had no patience and just wanted me to stop. I didn't know how to stop it. It was an awful time and then FINALLY it did stop. - Pam

 

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For sure Snow you are a Queen among ice maidens!
I had early menopause and it was a breeze because I was deliberately starving myself so I didn't know if I was dizzy from hunger or "the change". I agree we overlook talking about menopause with other women

 

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Sorry, it wasn’t ketamine injected with my Botox. It was Kenalog.

 

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@Pammy53 I’m sorry it was so horrible for you and your female relatives. I’m glad your husband was patient for you. “How’s the weather?” - HILARIOUS!!! Eventually your daughter will understand, lol! I’m glad you have a lot of information to share with her in advance!

How long did it take you before you felt better? You can say “10 years” or “age 65”, etc.

@Kathylp Thank you for clarifying about Kenalog. I read that it’s a steroid that works by decreasing inflammation. Does it help with your pain only during the procedure, or also afterward with you overall pelvic pain?