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Last night my pullup leaked and I had to change, and that pull-up was full in the morning. As I have been hoping this incontinence would just magically pass and go back to normal, I've just been using OTC products. I tried Walmart brand pull-ups but they were uncomfortable. The next cheapest were Always discreet, which has been what I have stuck to. I use a pad inside it during the day and try to just change those out to save money (they leak on the sides which is why I need the pull-up for protection). But it is getting discouraging, having to do diaper checks, often reminded after changing my baby, which makes me feel infantile and weakens my mental authority in the home as the mother. I am tired of wetting myself and needing to hide my incontinence from my kids (they have already casually called my pads in the trash can 'diapers' which hearing them say makes me more discouraged, not sure exactly why but it's a lot to sort out mentally. If they outright know, it will eventually get around to all my friends and family because kids don't know how to keep secrets. Then there's the cost and just having started looking online, they all seem so expensive, more than I'm paying for OTC diapers. I have a urodynamics test on Monday and am hoping that will give me some answers and options for solutions.I guess this was mostly a venting post, I am amazed at the courage and resilience of you all, especially those who have been in the trenches for a long time already. I guess for now, if you have a favorite diaper/pull-up that isn't too expensive, will last a while and is discreet please let me know!
 
Everyone's issue is different, male and female. I'm male, so here's my 2 cents. I've been using Depends with a shield for the last 15 years. On a few occasions, they leaked, but, 99% of the time, they didn't. Also, depending on their ages, I would try to explain your condition to your kids. Sometimes I think of my incontinence issues like my need to wear glasses or hearing aids. As we age, we change. We need help in certain areas. I don't go bragging, but my wife and older kids know. It's up to you how you handle this, but try to think of your issue as an aid to improving your life. Again, and I stress this, all of us are different and have different needs. Me, personally, I'd rather "leak" 1 out of 100 times I wear my "items". The lowest price I've found for Depends, consistently, is from from Costco. Cheaper liners are also available from other manufacturers. So, keep on keeping on, and know you're definitely not alone...

Bo
 
I hate to tell you this pull-ups are not recommended for nighttime wetting - the wetter they get the more they stretch out the elasticity especially around the leg openings- tab style diapers work better so you can get the diaper snug - plus majority have leak guards inside the leg openings. If you wet a lot then go with tab style diapers - I use plastic back tab diapers- brands maga max by north shore and comfi dry 24/7 by XP medical - they are considered premium diapers and you pay more - my benefit is I might wet through out the night and the diaper holds up with no leaks for the most part.
As with the saying you get what you pay for

Chad
 
Hi Sarah I do think men having different equipment than women experience the gush of incontinence differently. For me as a woman at night which is when I need the protection the big space between the body and pull up seems to fill like a swimming pool,an aquarium before the absorbency starts at and so of course, leaks.
I have no had better success with tab style diapers for that reason here's a big bulk between my legs and even squashing it up to meet my body it makes a huge pod that doesn't let me sleep.
We've been told that do the bottom tab upward and snug then the top tab is the way to do it for best results.
I have not found a tab I can STAND.

I found that the thrift shop has baby and adult diapers at half the cost of store so I open it and insert as a big pad inside the pull up at night and this I can haul out and replace half asleep (keep plastic bag to put wet in tie up and put to bed side if it gets very wet but mostly I sleep well the pull up is fairly dry in morning and no leaks. I have a rectangular bed pad under me and with out the inner diaper accessory I have to wash from leaking daily.


Using the extra diapers in my pull up works great.

I use the cheapest store diapers with my inserts. Depends had a smell when taken off in morning
 
As for day use I'd personally use the pull up with any pad system that works best for you. Maybe angle on each thigh inward like a V.
Keep plastic grocery bags or such cheap baggies in the bathroom and bag used products before disposing.

Would I help to wear something like a regular spandex under pant a size or two bigger than your usual t hold the pull up in place and so not move around and caus gaps which leak,?
 
"kids say the darndest things".
How old are the kids?
Like every thing else here's a need to know at different ages so treating it as a discreet matter like any menstrual or toilet activity on your part is appropriate.
You owe them no explanation or visible demonstration of your toilet time at ANY age.
Last thought.
Yes kids can be unintentionally blabber mouthy but remember they think bin terms of themselves first so outing you might come as a self protective retort if someone shames them that a "big boy or girl like you" is using a diaper say at a friend's or preschool.,"
"Well My mommy wears a diaper" is self protective response.
Similarly mocking as a joke is not funny just as mocking a person using a cane although the child doesn't know it's hurtful. So you firmly say this is NOT funny. People do the best they can and your job is to be patient and kind of whatever thing you say to firmly
delineate disability is not to be mocked.

I believe that if you are a parent teaching your child to be kind is the most important thing you do.

Last thought on the matter: the mom's of the friend kids are quite possibly having incontinence of varying degrees themselves. It's a common side effect of child bearing.
 
You had a few children in a short time Sarah. Your internal body has gone through alot,you're hormones are overwhelmed and you are probably tired and working hard to care for them.

It's really good you are doing self care as much as possible. No guilt for rest and recovery over these next three or four years.
SUPER WOMAN IS A CARTOON.
 
@Chadindiapers I guess I should clarify I don't have bedwetting enuresis, but the urges come at night too and if I get up to tend the baby or to go to the bathroom I usually flood when I stand up which is what happened last night. Would a booster that allows flow through be something you would recommend? And if so what are the best boosters?
 
Sorry I do not use boosters because the diapers I buy do the job - the nights I don’t wet - I reuse the diaper for the next night - I understand about a budget however buying cheap products and then spending more money to make them work does not make sense to me - everyone is shaped differently so do what’s best for you - as mentioned- whatever product you choose- should make sure it has leak guard’s
 
Hey Sarah060486. I can really relate to what you are saying about disposing of your used pull-ups. I live in commune situation and am the only incontinent person in the household. So what I do is keep plastic shopping bags under the sink- behind the towels. That way I can tie up the bag- take it to the kitchen garbage- which is stored in the bottom part of a closet -like area. When I place the tied up e bag in the main garbage I always make sure to poke my little finger in the side of the bag to release the air and will put it under any other trash already in there. I feel very very bless to have my older BFF to talk to as she has had 5 children, all vaginally, and is diabetic so she has very similar incontinent issues.Very rarely does my sweetie make it to the bathroom without leaking all over on way. So please know you are in no way alone in this. Now-about the expensive protection: have you gone on the Northsore website yet? If you get a private moment (ha ha - few for you I'm sure) check them out. Look for their free samples -scroll to the bottom- and they will let you pick one of everything. If you don't find the freebies there, go to the upper left hand corner where you see the lines and pull that down. If you have the time scope out the entire website for familiarity. Please please let me know how your urodynamics testing goes (if you are OK with that) as my Urologist is going to discuss it at my next visit. All the best to you. But you got this girl!! Just need a little thinking "outside the box"
 
I use more cloth products now but have used Betterdry nappies for bedwetting. It sounds like you’re wetting while awake at night though, and maybe several times depending on how often you have to get up to look after your kids?Are you wanting to change every time you wet?
 
@Maymay941 Yes I had 4 kids in about 9 years, My kids are 9 1/2 (boy) 7 yo girl, 4 yo girl, and my now 9 month old boy... and I am a stay at home mom with them while also working part time in finance from home! I have my hands full, which is another reason why I have no time for incontinence! Lol
 
Well I guess I said everything in the long winded response Sarah.all I can say that I didn't get back to edit in time is a baby diaper squashed cozily against one to create a custom shaped absorbent sponge against the curves of lady parts so it doesn't lie an inch away from the source of the fountain waiting for a river or trickles to splash down on a flat distant surface. It fits up close and personal so no leaks.

When I can in the afternoon I take everything off below the waist and do a shower with the hose extension to freshen up. It's like a douch for below the belt but washes thighs legs etc etc
I'd bet good money you're not alone Mama!
 
@Rowan123 It's usually once or twice a night I get up.. I don't want to change too often for costs sake, and the pullups I use are pretty comfortable even when wet as much as can be expected of course. Usually I know when I will need a change but a larger than usual leak can mess up my calculations. During the day I have many small accidents as I am up and active.
 
Wow everyone is different- I mainly void at night if I don’t get up to pee - I would rather get a good night sleep then set an alarm during the night and hopefully be able to fall back to sleep - my mornings start off at 5:30 - so thats why I pay a little more for diapers to get a good nights sleep - if waking up to pee in the toilet or keep sleeping and pee in the diaper - either way as long as I don’t have to wash bedding when I get home from work is a plus - yes I have a protective bed cover with a fitted sheet on top - normally if my diaper leaked during the night I only have to wash the fitted sheet and protected sheet - I don’t wear anything else but a diaper before I go to bed - why wash more clothing if I do leak - my 2 cents with dealing with this - btw I’m 51 and getting use to the nighttime routine

Chad
 
I use cloth diapers and plastic pants purchased from fetware.com. good prices, and fast service. Initial cost is high, but overall much cheaper in long run. I bought my pull-on overnight diapers over 5 years ago, and most are in great shape. I only use 1 each night and wash 3 at a time. I line dry my diapers for 2 days in basement, followed by a 10 minutes dryer time to reduce stiffness. You will probably need about 5 diapers. Expect to pay about $60.00 ea.or up
 
@Chadindiapers I wish sometimes I could just sleep through! But the need to use the bathroom always wakes me but just don't make it in time.
 
OMG!!!What an absolutely beautiful, awesome picture!! Enjoy those babies while they are all young. They truly do grow up fast. I can't believe my baby will be37 this year. Anyway- I thought up an idea for you: should one of your children ever make mention of Mommies diapers in mixed company, what if you rolled your eyes and said "That's what they think my pads (sanity) are!! I don't know why they think that but I just let them be and I figure when they get older I will explain the facts of life to them." I'm only suggesting this because you seem a little worried about others knowing. Which, believe me I totally understand. Maybe you can talk to your sister when you visit? I soo regret telling mine. Anyway, what do ya think? But I must say one more time: fantastic precious picture- just beautiful!! That's one happy baby!!
 
Hey Sarah060486. I was just rereading your post concerning the best booster pads. I gotta tell you I've bought and tried multiple brands. They just don't seem to work for me. So....if you want, you can private message me and you are welcome to them. (All of a sudden I'm feeling like a sales person) But really- no pressure. Every time I look at your Pic it actually warms my heart. Must be the Nanna in me.
 
There is some imprecision in defining what is incontinence. From puberty until my accident I wore paper towels in my underwear to soak up any dribbles after peeing and leaks of semen. I did not think of myself as being incontinent. (This was long before a spinal injury made me doubly incontinent in 2013.) How much dribbling makes someone incontinent? How often must a considerable accident have to occur for someone to be incontinent?
Many kinds of normal underwear, both male and female, have a double layer or gusset where there is likely to be a small amount of leakage.
Protective wear for those more heavily incontinent seem to fall within five types:

1 Adapted pants and knickers
There are many kinds of underwear on the market adapted for heavier leakage and marketed as incontinence wear: there are many brands of washable or disposable pants and knickers adapted to take pads or with absorbent areas. Most seem to be single-sex. The pads when sold separately can be single- or unisex.

2 Fixation pants
non-absorbent, used only to hold a pad in place; unisex - no front exit for men; nurses and carers usually refer to mine as knickers, pants or nets. The manufacturers often just refer to them by their brand name chosen to give a hint of what they are, with a pictogram to give a further clue, announcing that they are fixation pants for incontinence pads in microscopic print in 20+ languages on the back of the packet.
Another minute pictogram showing how to determine your size shows a figure of indeterminate gender, leaving the sex of the intended user equally uncertain.
They are more stretchy than is usual for ordinary underwear and so can be expected to take a pad more readily. The pad can be unisex or single sex. It is to be expected that the difference would be in the length at the front. To take an erection, my pads have to be pulled up as far as they will go. The packet does not clear up the mystery of the gender of the intended user.

3 Pull-ups:
an expression used in the USA for both children's and adult products; similar to normal underwear but with pad fixed inside and are made of waterproof material. They can be unisex or single-sex.

4 Diapers:
can open out flat; large absorbent pad to cover area likely to be affected by urine or faeces; plastic sides with one or two adhesive tabs on each side to hold them securely around the body between the groin and the waist. A term used in the USA for both children's and adult products. These too can be unisex or single-sex.

5 Cloth diapers (USA)/nappies (UK):
square, absorbent, washable material held in place by safety pins or something more modern. There are many brands of cloth diapers/nappies shaped like plastic ones with fastening studs at each side. Occasionally they are referred to as 'napkins' but in the UK this is more usual for smaller squares of lighter material used at the dinner table to clear up stray bits of food from around the mouth or fingers or to prevent the soiling of clothes - similar in purpose to nappies but at the other end of the alimentary canal.

Pants made of plastic, rubber or other waterproof material can be worn over any of these types of incontinence wear for extra protection.

Diapers, pull-ups, fixation pants, nets or knickers with many brand names are really all variations of ways to hold a pad of absorbent material in place and to be able to get access to it as needed. The differences between the variety of incontinence wear amount to a few features:

amount of absorbency;

whether they open with tapes or studs (diapers), usually at the sides or whether they are sufficiently stretchy so that no opening is needed (pull-ups or fixation pants);

material used: waterproof (usually plastic or rubber) or textile.

washable or disposable. This is likely to affect cost. My washable fixation pants cost very little. I use only about six per year. The last pack I bought cost £6 for 25. I use one disposable pad per day costing around 30-35p.

Whether the pad is fixed to the pants, such as in a pocket, or just covered by them might be significant for those who have an active lifestyle. Some fixation pants, including mine, allow the pad to be moved in them.

Gender: neither the pads or pants that I use indicate on the packets which gender they are intended for; presumably they are for both. This seems to be quite common. The difference in position of the urethra perhaps makes that surprising. My pads are long enough to reach past the entry point of my suprapubic catheter if not placed too high at the back. Some brands of pad are clearly female.



So how can we find what incontinence wear suits us best or at least well enough? A good starting point would be an estimate of urine leakage, and if applicable, faecal leakage, per day. This will set limits on what would work, frequency of changing and whether disposable or washable would affect the cost. Having a suprapubic catheter reduces the capacity needed for my pad a great deal. Bowel evacuations result in faecal leakage being unusual for me.

Some of the advertisements for branded incontinence wear give quite good guidance on questions such as level of absorbency, method of opening, material used whether washable or not and other issues raised here.
 
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