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I have had a doctor suggest that I try a few weeks of sleeping pills to get my brain out of the habit of waking me to go to the toilet so many times. 4 to 6 times a night has been the norm for several months now and Im exhausted as a result.

Has anyone tried this? Did it help? The list of side effects is a bit daunting?

Thanks, Phil
 
What is the name of the sleeping pill? I might be able to help if I knew the name. Thanks guy. I hope your life’s journey is a happy one.
 
I’ve had a lot of success with melatonin for several years now. The older you get, the more you need. I’m 33 and take 1mg every night.
 
@paace
Ever had really bizarre dreams when taking it? It did help me get to sleep, but the dream experience was literally out of this world type of stuff.
 
@spicewerx, try different brands of melatonin. My wife uses it, and she says that some brands give her weird dreams and some don't. She's been using a brand she gets at Trader Joe's for quite a while now, and that one works well for her.
 
@physlink I do so every night, but it definitely has never reset my brain from waking up to pee many times a night, unfortunately :(

I should note that I’ve had chronic insomnia since age four and have had all kinds of tests and CBT therapy, including inpatient, yoga, meditation, sleep studies, et al., but I still need meds to sleep regardless of how my brain and body are keeping me awake, but especially now that nocturia is in the mix. I would LOVE to sleep well without medications. I can’t believe people can just lay down, close their eyes, and fall asleep. It just doesn’t work for me. I’ve watched so many other people throughout my life just fall asleep naturally and I think must surely be a wondrous thing!

Anyway, if you’re not sleeping well because of nocturia, I highly recommend trying sleeping pills. Ambien (Zolpidem) is the very best. It works within 20 minutes and it’s over in six hours. The rest of the sleeping meds have an unpredictable start time and tend to have a lingering groggy effect in the morning. I like Ambien because you know what to expect. It’s the most predictable sleeping med around, and it’s swift. Ambien will put you in a thorough sleep quickly and keep you there then conclude when you need it to do you can wake up in time.

If your doctor prescribes a different sleeping pill, please feel free to ask me about it because I’ve taken them all, for better or worse. I would definitely try it out if I were you. Not sleeping well ages you, like smoking a pack of cigarettes a day. It affects every cell in your body and your entire life. So I say go for it; give sleeping pills a chance.
 
Oh - okay - Zopiclone. That is Lunesta in the U.S. It works similarly to Ambien but it dispenses in the body more gradually and throughout the night. It has a weird metallic taste that I can’t stand. That bad taste actually kept me awake. But supposedly not everyone gets the metallic taste reaction. When you try it, imagine it hitting you all at once instead of gradually, and there you have Ambien.

I have tried melatonin, from 1mg up to 10mg when I was having sleep studies. It made no measurable difference in how I slept - or rather, didn’t. I do remember the weird dreams and increased frequency of vivid nightmares, though. But I’m a freak when it comes to insomnia. I know many folks who sleep well with melatonin’s aid.

Please let us know how your Zopilcone experience goes.
 
Ambien is the only thing that can keep me asleep through bladder urges. I’ve taken low and high doses of every sleep aid out there, and only Ambien allows me to wake up with a full diaper, which means I slept great and didn’t wake up to pee.
 
My doctors prescribed Trazodone to help me sleep. Not the best pill I’ve used but it works. If it doesn’t work they tell me to take another pill after one hour. They claim it is not as addictive as other sleeping pills. Who knows about it’s addictive qualities but it seems to work. Hope this helps. Ask your doctor about it.
 
snow said:
Ambien is the only thing that can keep me asleep through bladder urges. I’ve taken low and high doses of every sleep aid out there, and only Ambien allows me to wake up with a full diaper, which means I slept great and didn’t wake up to pee.

Snow... Is Ambien safe to take every night? Or should it only be used once in a while? I have insomnia a few times a week, and I use over-the-counter pills, but they often don't do the job. I know what you mean though, about waking up with a full diaper. On my most restless nights, I wake up not very wet, but I'm dragging like a zombie all day. I'd gladly trade a soaked diaper for a GREAT night's sleep!!
 
@Chris318 I take Trazadone (or Trazzie” as I call it). It is a very old medication and is not addictive. It’s an antidepressant they use in super high doses (think 1000mg, compared to our 50-100mg for sleep) to sedate patients at the State Hospital.
 
@snow - Re Ambien. You should be aware that some people have very strange reactions using Ambien. A friend of mine has no problems with it. Her daughter in-law can't take it. Her son kept coming home from work with all this food in their bed.- Another friend fixed a complete Thanksgiving dinner, table totally set and her family came over the next day and she was sound asleep in bed. - When my husband had to have a below the knee amputation, he was fine with it in the hospital.(a controlled environment I think)Though one of the nurses said to him "You're not going to get weird on me are you?"- He tried ONE Ambien at home.I was more afraid that he would fall out of bed thinking that he still had two legs. He made it into his wheelchair to go to the bathroom. I didn't see his silhouette pass by the foot of our bed. I turned on my flashlight and had to YELL at him twice."HONEY,YOU'RE IN THE CLOSET!!" After that, no more Ambien. Kinda funny though lol. - Pam
 
@DaveW49519 I’ve been taking Ambien most nights since it was released to the public, about 22 years ago. It’s really hard to get prescribed these days for more than 10 consecutive days, for extreme insomnia conditions like loss of spouse. Your PCP will tell you it’s dangerous because it makes some people do really weird things like sleepwalk or sleep-drive. But not me; it just puts me to sleep and keeps me asleep. They say it causes dementia later in life, but I always tell them that I don’t care about “later in life“ because I would rather sleep good now and be able to experience life pleasantly and continue to exist. When I don’t sleep I become extremely suicidal. So to me Ambien is a godsend. Of all of my mental health conditions parentheses ADHD, OCD, depression, anxiety, and chronic insomnia), it is insomnia I hate most. Of course if I was able to get rid of ADHD and OCD or just anxiety, then I probably wouldn’t have such racing thoughts at night and I’d be able to sleep better, so it’s kind of a toss-up of which mental health condition is the very worst. I’m willing to take the risk of using it longterm. Who knows, with all the other medication I take, or just by natural age, I may end up with dementia anyway! My dad‘s brother has it.

For a while I was really in a bind because for about six years, after my fave ever psychiatrist retired, I went through a bunch of them who refused to prescribe Ambien or Xanax. A year ago, thankfully, I found a new one who will. And lo and behold, once I was able to sleep again, I was able to get up out of bed and get rid of my depression, resume joy in things I do, be more active again, and get back to a job. So Ambien is pretty crucial to me.
 
@DaveW49519 Maybe your urologist or PCP would be willing to prescribe you 5-10 per month on a continuing basis.
 
Your right Snow they are antidepressants in large dosage and they are a very old drug. Thanks for the info on dependency, I wasn’t sure on that. It works most nights, but it’s not always a sure thing for me anyway. The only thing, I’ve never had a doctor who didn’t want to prescribe it. It is considered a narcotic so you will need your doctor to prescribe it for you. I am starting to use zolpidem CR 12.5. It is substitution for ambiem. It is also a slow acting drug that helps to put you to sleep fast and then keeps you asleep. My doctor just started me on it so I’m not completely sure yet. I’ll let you all know later. Sleep well all. I hope this helps. It seems sleep is a bigger problem then we all know. Great subject.
 
@Chris318 Actually, Ambien is the brand name for the generic name Zolpidem. They are identical. The CR means extended-release, yes.
They are not narcotics (other than requiring a prescription) and they are not addictive. They’re not regulated the way Xanax or Ativan or Oxycodone are. My pain doctor would never prescribe me Ambien; they want that done by a psychiatrist only. You can stop taking Ambien at any time. It’s the same thing with Trazodone, you can stop taking it at any time without any consequences, other than extra sleeplessness for 1-2 nights after you stop. 12.5 is a good size dose; I hope it helps you!

With all sleep meds, I think it’s a good idea, if possible, to try them initially with someone else in your bed with you, in case you have really severe nightmares or try to pee in the closet, lol!

Unfortunately, one thing I’ve definitely found with Ambien is that I have acquired a tolerance to it. So I try to only take it half the days of the month if I can and to make sure I don’t take any more than the doctor prescribed, even though some nights I do need more. Something that was interesting to me is that I’ve always needed a high dose (20 mg), but during those five years I couldn’t find a doctor willing to prescribe them, my tolerance didn’t reset down to say, 5mg. I think 20mg is just how much it takes to shut up my noisy, way-too-busy brain. Ditto benzodiazepines; I’ve always need at least 1-2mg to get any affect.
 
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