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Hi guys. 67 and I've never been afraid of anything; but I'm afraid now. The cancer has to be taken out. 2 Gleasons "4+4" and a bunch of "4+3"s. Today is Thursday. Surgery is scheduled Wednesday.
What should I be doing to prepare. I have never been incapacitated in my entire life. Reading these posts have brought me to an understanding of what my reality will be post surgery. I am dreading my future reality. It seems like depression is an inevitability.
 
Trust in your surgeon. The technology is so advanced nowadays. I hope for a positive outcome for you. My Gleason was 5-4, 9——- and I play golf everyday that ends in “y”…..chin up!!!!!!
 
I can’t speak for everyone, but from reading on here and other groups my journey has more or less been in the middle. I was 57 at the time of surgery and read quite a bit of literature on prostate cancer and subsequent complications.

I would encourage you to read and gain as much information going in as possible. My local urologist gave me a book about prostate cancer including what Gleason scores mean, types of treatment including surgery, and the side effects following surgery.

Don’t be scared. I know , right. I was too. But knowledge is power so to speak. The more you know, the more you are prepared to deal with everything.

Immediate incontinence following the removal of the catheter is inevitable. For some it persists for a short period and for others long term. Many factors are at play there.

Erectile dysfunction is a given. Kind of the same as incontinence. I have read where some regained erections in a few days, others never, myself kind of in between. Twenty two months and still working on it.

Follow up treatment is highly dependent upon you final pathology.

Best wishes, prayers, and keep asking questions.
 
Bgh,

Let me explain my philosophy on RP. My father and grandfather died from prostate cancer. I have known from an early age that I’d get prostate cancer.

When my Gleason scores showed that the cancer was present I explored the options. Doing nothing is always an option, but the outcome from that was not desirable. I explored the option of getting radiation, but if cancer does come back the doctors can’t operate to remove the prostate. (I was 67 when diagnosed) The only feasible option was a radical prostatectomy.

That’s when I started my homework. Just like you I found this forum and started reading the experiences of others.

There is no denying the first two months are challenging with the leakage. As the body starts to recover life starts to return to normal albeit a slightly different post surgery normal.

What you can do now is plan for your recovery. Watch YouTube videos on how to do Kegels exercises. Work with your doctor’s office and your insurance to find a good pelvic floor physical therapist. Schedule a time each day to go for a walk and gradually increase the distance and pace. It is surprising how much walking helps to strengthen your pelvic floor muscles.

Finally as your recovery progresses accept that you may have to make some accommodation to wearing a pad to protect against stress leakage (coughing, sneezing, hardy laughing) and get on with your life.

I have already outlived my dad and grandfather. There may come a day when medical science comes up with a better treatment for prostate cancer, until that day arrives the current treatments are better than the alternative of doing nothing.

You can do this just as lots of us here have done it.

Keep us informed on your progress.

Greensleeves
 
Do your research. Look at High Intensity Focused Ultra Sound treatment. Get second opinions from qualified urologists. Good luck!
 
I’m 22 months post RP. My Gleason was 9, and the pathology showed that the cancer had just breached the capsule, making mine a Stage IIIA cancer. My worst fear going into surgery was having a catheter for a week+. I knew I would have incontinence and some level of ED, but it was the catheter that bothered me psychologically.

Afterwards, I had the catheter for 8 days, and it wasn’t pleasant. When that was removed, I had what seemed like 100% incontinence, which quickly got better as I did kegels. As for ED, the docs had done a great job with the “nerve-sparing robotic surgery,” and Mr. Happy was back at about 80%, without Cialis. Within 6 months, I was leaking less than 1 ounce per day, and on some days as low as 0.2 ounces/day.

Then, at one of my post-RP screenings, my PSA showed up again. This led to radiation and hormone therapy. I seemed to weather those really well, until about 4 months afterwards. At that point, I began having radiation-induced bladder problems - spasms - and lots of incontinence. The docs have been working on that, and my spasms/pelvic pain are manageable, and I’ve learned to live with the on-going leakage (which is about 20 ounces/day). When this started, I thought my life was over, but I’ve learned to manage. I can do most of what I did before surgery, and my cancer is still gone.

Having recounted all the above, please understand that all of this puts me in the <5% of cases. You have a 95+% chance of a better outcome. Even in the worst cases, though, my experience suggests that you will learn to manage the side effects. Best of luck. Be strong.
 
Greetings @Bgh - Welcome to the NAFC.

Please don't be scared. Wherever you are; the Lord is by your side. He is going no where is always close at hand.

When it comes to bladder problems - sure it is embarassing. But as others have said - there is nothing to worry about regardless of any effects that will most likely be temporary.

Leakage can happen - and I live with a condition where I have to wear protection at night. Did it take me a long time to accept? Yes. But the people here at the NAFC - are the ones who truly saved me in regards to living a better life and accepting continence products over being a recluse.

What I would recommend if you are spiritual is find something that means something to you and keep it in your pocket to protect you while you start your journey. I have an angel statue in a resin pebble that I call my "angel pebble" - that keeps me feel protected and strong on bad days.

It's not that I value it more than my faith - it's like a reminder that He is always around. Whether it's a cross, locket, watch or even something that means something that's non spiritual - even keep it around so you can think of us when not logged in.

You will be okay. Keep us posted and dont be afraid to share your emotions. We all have.

Blessings In Christ,
Honeeecombs
 
Bgh,

Ricard and danznman have given you some good advice. Make sure that you join 'HealthUnlocked' for more suggestions/help before you decide on surgery. I am still alive 18 years post-surgery; however, my cancer has returned and I am totally incontinent and impotent. Check to see if brachytherapy is an option for you? I'm sorry that I only consulted with surgeons and didn't explore other options. Fortunately there are more options today than there were when I was diagnosed.

My user name on 'HealthUnlocked' is ronronHU if you care to follow my journey.

My best to you in whatever direction you choose to go.

Ron
 
All of the above is good info. I believe it is important to trust your doctors and to have the best that you can find. Get a second opinion if you are not confident. Most of all, trust that the Lord is in control and ask Him to guide you and your doctors. May He be with you on your journey. I changed doctors and changed treatment from radiation to RP surgery after second opinion from John Hopkins was a higher grade of cancer. I also had radiation and hormone treatment 1.5 years after the surgery, but all is well now.
 
I’m not having a radical prostatectomy, so I can’t fully understand, but just know that you will be a healthier person. Do you want fear let cancer win? This is why this forum exists; we all are here to support one another. Prayers…
 
Depression is not inevitable. The early months are definitely a challenge though. I try to focus on what I can still do, which is A LOT. I'm two years post surgery. I just got back from a wilderness canoe trip which involved lots of paddling, carrying gear over portages, and nights spent camping. I'm 70, so this stuff was not easy. It was not easy because I'm 70, not because I had a RP. I enjoyed the hell out of the trip.

Everyday life is a little different than it was before surgery. I pay attention to where bathrooms are, and I change a pad now and then. At this point, one pad easily lasts the day, however, so even that is not a big deal.

As others have said, do your exercises, and stay active after your initial healing. I also recommend you weigh your pullups/pads and get a daily total. That will show progress when progress won’t appear to be happening. Hang in there…you got this.
 
Thanks all. I did seek a 2nd opinion. Same conclusion - we need to get it before it punches through the prostate capsule. Apparently it is on the cusp of the right side ever so close to breaking through. Prostate removal is the recommended treatment at this point. I will keep you posted on my progress. Thank all of you for the support.
 
I apologize for not addressing your concerns with depression in my earlier post. I guess the reason I didn’t is because I never experienced anything close to depression. If I had depression I wasn’t aware of it. I never let the incontinence slow me down. I even got out and walked some while I still had the catheter. One thing I did that I would have done differently, I went back to work too soon. I talked the surgeon into releasing a week early. Listen to the doctors they know what they are talking about, especially concerning recovery time. Prostatectomy is a major surgery.
 
I suggest reviewing the following.

Mark's Prostate Cancer Experience - YouTube Videos

Mark's Prostate Cancer Experience - Facebook Group

Prostate Cancer Foundation Guides


Look at my post
 
@Bgh The surgery part is over quickly and (usually) relatively simple. I think you've done exactly what is necessary to prepare yourself for the aftermath (insofar as that is really possible), which is to really educate yourself and understand fully the range of possibilities. I can't imagine anything worse than going into a RP without being prepared re what might happen... which might have been the case if you had just depended on your physician to prepare you.

If you end up on the "better" end of the spectrum, as I did, then you will be even more grateful for your outcome; if on the "worse" end then it will help that you have found folks that understand and have gone through similar (and in some cases much worse) issues that you can "talk" to, and reassurance that things will likely improve, slowly but stedily!
 
All, I was a bit surprised that proton therapy was not one of the options discussed by my urologist. I'm not sure if this was because of issues with insurance coverage, or because my urologist practices at a hospital that does not have this modality (there are about a dozen proton centers across the country).

If I had actually considered the radiation therapy solution I certainly would have looked into it, as it is super precise as to location being irradiated v. "normal" radiation therapy that just blasts the entire part of the body, causing much more wide-spread tissue damage, scarring, etc. (beyond the cancerous parts that you want to zap!)
 
@Bgh said "Thanks all. I did seek a 2nd opinion. Same conclusion - we need to get it before it punches through the prostate capsule. Apparently it is on the cusp of the right side ever so close to breaking through. Prostate removal is the recommended treatment at this point. I will keep you posted on my progress. Thank all of you for the support.'

Good that you got a second opinion, it will help in not second-guessing your RP decision. I decided to have the RP (was Gleason 7 (4+3)) without a second opinion because the biopsy showed some evidence of "perineural infiltration" i.e. the cancer had started getting into the nerve. That would have provided a way for the cancer to spread beyond the prostate, because the nerves pass through the prostate capsule.
 
runningbarend said:
All the above comments cover the expected postop recovery. Just know this too shall pass.

I don't believe we've met.

Welcome to the NAFC; looks like you've posted only a couple times. Come stick around and join a good crew - we don't bite. It really does help to make sure you don't feel alone.

Your comment reminds me of Gandolfs "You shall not pass" - but I think that's pre-op issues; not post op. 😂🤣

Blessings In Christ,
Honeeecombs
 
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