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Try wearing a Vinyl or plastic pullup pant over your reguler pullup. I am a female so i find this to work good. I hate the regular tape diapers. They are too bulky. I have asked for years if companies make vinyl or plastic lined pullups. But no company seems to do that, lets all keep trying to get a company to produce one.

 

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Yes. I agree.

 

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@ colin13: you said,

"Try wearing a Vinyl or plastic pullup pant over your regular pullup."



That is a good and reasonable solution with pullups. I've done this often for years to increase the effectiveness of pullups (or even a pullup + inserts for added absorbency). Gary brand makes some excellent and durable vinyl pants for this purpose.

 

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the intent of this post wasn't for using current pullups which are garbage it was wanting to see a plastic baked pullup where the padding is a full rise

@ colin13: you said,

"Try wearing a Vinyl or plastic pullup pant over your regular pullup."



A good and reasonable solution with pullups. I've done this often for years.

 

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Yes, I want to see a company make a plastic backed pull up. A company like Northshore Care Supply, Attends, Depends, etc. Have the full rise and protection of a brief but made into a pull up.

 

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There seem to be two issues here: the outer coating of pull-ups, and how far up the padding should go. This latter problem affects men especially. I agree that an adult pull-up modeled on Goodnites would be an improvement, especially As for plastic back, it was my understanding that it has to do with the manufacturing process, though I can’t remember where I heard that. In the meanwhile, plastic pants over the pull-up help.

 

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They made plastic backed diapers in the 80"s. What in the process has changed to where they can't make them anymore?

 

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@mhart82
I think it is the plastic backed pull-ups specifically that are a problem. I don’t remember them making those.

 

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@Danman
Companies like Huggies, Luvs & Pampers made plastic backed diapers before, so why can't they do it again? If other diaper companies like Northshore can make plastic backed diapers, why can't the aforementioned companies do the same.

 

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@mhart82

I think the question is why NorthShore, which does make good plastic backed diapers and also makes pull-ups does not make plastic backed pull-ups. I think that’s a problem with the manufacturing process. This is a topic that comes up quite a bit, so I am sure they are aware of the interest/demand. It seems like it is more of a technical problem preventing this. That said, I don’t understand why the padding in front can’t go up higher.

 

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They have this delusion that everyone wants cloth-like covered products

@Danman
Companies like Huggies, Luvs & Pampers made plastic backed diapers before, so why can't they do it again? If other diaper companies like Northshore can make plastic backed diapers, why can't the aforementioned companies do the same.

 

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They have this delusion that everyone wants cloth-like covered products

@Danman
Companies like Huggies, Luvs & Pampers made plastic backed diapers before, so why can't they do it again? If other diaper companies like Northshore can make plastic backed diapers, why can't the aforementioned companies do the same.

They think as plastic makes noise that people who use their products will feel less ashamed and guilty if cloth backed.

As cloth don't make noise, whilst it maybe true the manufacturers don't realize that plastic is better in terms of keeping odor in.

From what I've seen Tena in Europe went cloth backed but realized they weren't selling as many products.
So they've slowly went back to plastic backed diapers.

So now you've 3 types of Tena diapers the active fit which is plastic backed and cloth backed and another type which is also plastic backed.

Unsure of the exact names of last 2 I mentioned except Tena makes them.

 

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even cloth-like covered products can and will crinkle some more than others as much as they try to fool you into thinking they are cloth-covered there is still plastic under the cloth-like material how else are they going to contain liquids

They have this delusion that everyone wants cloth-like covered products

@Danman
Companies like Huggies, Luvs & Pampers made plastic backed diapers before, so why can't they do it again? If other diaper companies like Northshore can make plastic backed diapers, why can't the aforementioned companies do the same.

They think as plastic makes noise that people who use their products will feel less ashamed and guilty if cloth backed.

As cloth don't make noise, whilst it maybe true the manufacturers don't realize that plastic is better in terms of keeping odor in.

From what I've seen Tena in Europe went cloth backed but realized they weren't selling as many products.
So they've slowly went back to plastic backed diapers.

So now you've 3 types of Tena diapers the active fit which is plastic backed and cloth backed and another type which is also plastic backed.

Unsure of the exact names of last 2 I mentioned except Tena makes them.

 

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They can crinkle. However, I still think plastic backed are better. They protect alot better I think.

 

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exactly

They can crinkle. However, I still think plastic backed are better. They protect alot better I think.

 

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My main summation when it comes to most mainstream brands (Tena, Depends etc.) is that they try to make discretion their main selling point hence this focus on cloth backed products due to the lack of noise and I infer the lack of absorbency is a result of them trying to keep their products as invisible as possible under clothing. This evidently works as they obviously manage to shift enough products this way, otherwise they wouldn't keep making them.

Obviously, as we all know, discretion isn't just about being as invisible as possible under clothing as low absorbency, cloth backed products often result in leaks and smells which seems to negate the point of wearing them entirely. However, enough people obviously get on with them.

I've ultimately come to see pull ups as a stepping stone to better protection. I'd never have instantly decided to wear full on nappies during the day all the time for my issues due to embarassment and being overly self-conscious. All that marketing guff about the Tena Men pull ups being discreet and no different to regular underwear worked for me but multiple frustrations later I accepted that (even when my issues were much milder) taped products were the way to go.

 

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Hi @Sci_Fi_Fan, I think you're right on target with the fact that the mainstream brands try their utmost to make discretion the main advantage to buying their products. And they're just paying lip service to absorbency. Well that's all well and good but if the overall absorbency is compromised then the focus on discretion really defeats the purpose! Although I find the pull-ons are good for my particular needs at this point, I can see how the cloth-backed products could begin to smell and leak if they get overly wet.
I had to chuckle when I read what you said about the Tena mens pull-ups. I don't know about that product as it's sold in Britain, but over here in the U.S., they have very bold and somewhat wide vertical stripes on the entire garment. It really stands out like a sore thumb! Even though no one should be able to see them under jeans or other regular pants, I wouldn't feel at all discreet wearing them knowing that I have such a gaudy-looking product right under there!!!

 

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EXACTLY this delusion of discretion is there if you can use the discrete products successfully great but how discrete is it really with wet spots, leakage, and odors many of us cannot use the "DISCRETE DIAPERS" I have tried many different pull-ups and every one I tried was crap especially with the low rise of the padding I wouldn't mind if there was a pullup I could use and I have tried many different cloth-like covered diapers I have experienced chafing, leakage, wicking the cover usually feels clammy when wet and the cloth-like covered diapers don't contain odor as well especially the "BREATHABLE" diapers so after years of trying various crappy and junk diaper I know I need to use the heavier duty plastic-backed diapers

My main summation when it comes to most mainstream brands (Tena, Depends etc.) is that they try to make discretion their main selling point hence this focus on cloth backed products due to the lack of noise and I infer the lack of absorbency is a result of them trying to keep their products as invisible as possible under clothing. This evidently works as they obviously manage to shift enough products this way, otherwise they wouldn't keep making them.

Obviously, as we all know, discretion isn't just about being as invisible as possible under clothing as low absorbency, cloth backed products often result in leaks and smells which seems to negate the point of wearing them entirely. However, enough people obviously get on with them.

I've ultimately come to see pull ups as a stepping stone to better protection. I'd never have instantly decided to wear full on nappies during the day all the time for my issues due to embarassment and being overly self-conscious. All that marketing guff about the Tena Men pull ups being discreet and no different to regular underwear worked for me but multiple frustrations later I accepted that (even when my issues were much milder) taped products were the way to go.

 

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The idea of a plastic backed full coverage pull-up pops up fairly often in various forums. It sounds great until you think about the difference between a plastic backed diaper and a pull-up. Looking at pull-ups you see that they have to stretch and rebound as they are pulled on. Plastic doesn't stretch well. This makes it unlikely we will ever see a plastic backed pull-up. However, better padding could be added to pull-ups if the manufacturers were willing to increase the number of sizes offered. Currently, each adult pull-up covers a very wide range of waist and hip sizes. This means that the upper portion of the garment has to have a lot of elasticity. Thus, the portion of the garment dedicated to absorbing urine is situated low in the garment. Small children don't have the hip vs waist differential that adults possess. Thus, sizing is simpler and the expansion panels are placed on the sides of the pull-ups and not around the whole circumference of the pant. It would be interesting to see if a manufacturer could effectively adapt the side panel design to an adult pull-up. I think that only a specialized company like NorthShore could make this work. Retail stores want to stock as few varieties of a product as possible. They love the one size fits all or at most two size products.