I've still got a case of the stripped Tena for Men pull-ups and I find they are a good bit better capacity wise than most of the regular store brand pull-ups. They will reliably take one or two of my small 250mL voids without leaking. It's true that they do tend to sag and that's why I always wear a granny panty over them and the panty can absorb a tiny leak if one does get by the Tena, which does happen from time to time since, as previously mentioned, they don't have leak guards. Make no mistake, these aren't even in the ballpark with premium pull-ups like Abena Abri-flex, Molicare Mobile, or Northshore's pull-up. As for the strips, yeah I could do without them and would like the newer gray ones better, but when I wear the panty over them they just look white with a dark waistband. I think the idea behind using all gray is so that the "pad" doesn't show up as an obviously large white spot making it look like a diaper.