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Around 10.30am on Thursday 7th July 2022 I passed out for 2 minutes soon after my morning carers had put me in my wheelchair. They phoned for an ambulance which arrived promptly. I arrived at the hospital at 12 noon. The ambulance crew stayed with me in the ambulance in the car park until I was admitted inside at 4pm (!)
Most of the time I was left with the alarm to call for help out of reach. I asked a passing doctor to ask a nurse to come: she said nothing but dangled her alarm at me, not realising that I am paralysed and so could not reach mine.
Some nurses were courteous and worked hard to provide the best care they could; but they were in a minority. Most were evasive, abrupt and obstructive. The senior sister in charge of the group on Friday night appeared to be well aware of this. I explained to her that a nurse I had asked for help half an hour earlier had gone away and failed to return, she politely assured me that the nurse would return within a few minutes. She did - and gave me service with a scowl.
I was in hospital for low blood pressure. This was checked at intervals of 2 or 3 hours. I asked what the readings were: each time I was ignored. Nurses looked at me as though I was asking for State secrets and rushed away. Why were they instructed not to divulge such information? If it was against the hospital rules, why did they not say so? On two occasions I saw the readings on the monitor: my BP was normal for me.
A doctor talked with me about release on Thursday evening but I was later refused because it was left too late for my evening carers who go off duty at 10pm. A doctor came to see me at 8am on Friday morning and told me he would try to arrange my return in time for my 10am carers. About 1pm a nurse told me he had not written the discharge papers. A nurse worked hard to inform my care agency and district nurses of my return and to arrange transport home. An ambulance arrived at 5.10pm. The crew did well to deliver me and two other patients to our homes by 6.15pm. Unfortunately, the nursing care arranged for the following day (Saturday) did not arrive. On a regular Sunday visit, the two nurses had not been told that I had been in hospital.
We are often told how wasteful of NHS resources it is to miss an appointment. How much does it cost to keep a patient in an ambulance in a car park for most of the afternoon? Or keep a patient in hospital for so long after it had been established that there is nothing wrong? Why was information about my blood pressure withheld from me? When I was discharged I was given an (edited?) copy of a letter to my general practitioner. The section on observations omitted blood pressure readings - very strange for a patient who had been admitted for low blood pressure.
It is not uncommon to read stories in the newspapers about hospital staff be in abused verbally or even physically by patients for being ignored or lied to. Some of the staff I met during my visit were guilty. The senior sister, a few of the nurses and the ambulance crews stood out as heroic exceptions trying to operate a system which is too complicated, prone to failure and consequently wasteful.
 
BarrySimpson94 said:
Around 10.30am on Thursday 7th July 2022 I passed out for 2 minutes soon after my morning carers had put me in my wheelchair. They phoned for an ambulance which arrived promptly. I arrived at the hospital at 12 noon. The ambulance crew stayed with me in the ambulance in the car park until I was admitted inside at 4pm (!)
Most of the time I was left with the alarm to call for help out of reach. I asked a passing doctor to ask a nurse to come: she said nothing but dangled her alarm at me, not realising that I am paralysed and so could not reach mine.
Some nurses were courteous and worked hard to provide the best care they could; but they were in a minority. Most were evasive, abrupt and obstructive. The senior sister in charge of the group on Friday night appeared to be well aware of this. I explained to her that a nurse I had asked for help half an hour earlier had gone away and failed to return, she politely assured me that the nurse would return within a few minutes. She did - and gave me service with a scowl.
I was in hospital for low blood pressure. This was checked at intervals of 2 or 3 hours. I asked what the readings were: each time I was ignored. Nurses looked at me as though I was asking for State secrets and rushed away. Why were they instructed not to divulge such information? If it was against the hospital rules, why did they not say so? On two occasions I saw the readings on the monitor: my BP was normal for me.
A doctor talked with me about release on Thursday evening but I was later refused because it was left too late for my evening carers who go off duty at 10pm. A doctor came to see me at 8am on Friday morning and told me he would try to arrange my return in time for my 10am carers. About 1pm a nurse told me he had not written the discharge papers. A nurse worked hard to inform my care agency and district nurses of my return and to arrange transport home. An ambulance arrived at 5.10pm. The crew did well to deliver me and two other patients to our homes by 6.15pm. Unfortunately, the nursing care arranged for the following day (Saturday) did not arrive. On a regular Sunday visit, the two nurses had not been told that I had been in hospital.
We are often told how wasteful of NHS resources it is to miss an appointment. How much does it cost to keep a patient in an ambulance in a car park for most of the afternoon? Or keep a patient in hospital for so long after it had been established that there is nothing wrong? Why was information about my blood pressure withheld from me? When I was discharged I was given an (edited?) copy of a letter to my general practitioner. The section on observations omitted blood pressure readings - very strange for a patient who had been admitted for low blood pressure.
It is not uncommon to read stories in the newspapers about hospital staff be in abused verbally or even physically by patients for being ignored or lied to. Some of the staff I met during my visit were guilty. The senior sister, a few of the nurses and the ambulance crews stood out as heroic exceptions trying to operate a system which is too complicated, prone to failure and consequently wasteful.
 
@BarrySimpson94 Im sorry to hear that you had to go through this. I have also been through very poor care after an emergency admission, but I have also had some excellent care. Unfortunately, much of the NHS seems to be running in crisis mode a lot of the time.
 
Sorry you had such a bad experience. But do you really expect anything better in a "SOALICILIZED MEDICINE SYSTEM " now as a nurse yes we are told sometimes not to give patients information. That's the doctors job. And unless you have really worked as a nurse you have no idea how hard and demanding it becomes. You weren't ignored your needs were just prioritized against the needs of other patients.
 
PatRnFl said:
Sorry you had such a bad experience. But do you really expect anything better in a "SOALICILIZED MEDICINE SYSTEM " now as a nurse yes we are told sometimes not to give patients information. That's the doctors job. And unless you have really worked as a nurse you have no idea how hard and demanding it becomes. You weren't ignored your needs were just prioritized against the needs of other patients.

I agree with your comment about socialized healthcare systems.

Over my almost 76 years I have had many, many encounters with hospitals and their personnel using private insurance and now Medicare.

If I am conscious and able to communicate, I will always try to become friends with the ambulance people and every nurse and doctor I encounter. I try very hard to remember their names.

I see how hard they must work. It takes a very special person to do what they do, and I tell them how much I appreciate their helping me.

For example, one time when I was in the emergency room, a nurse came in to check on me. I smiled and called her by her name. I asked her how she was doing. She said, "Okay." I could see in her face that she was troubled by something. I asked her about her children. She started to cry. I asked her to tell me what was troubling her so that I could pray for her. She told me she was working 3 jobs and trying to take care of her children. She was exhausted! I took her hand and started praying for her.

Another time, I was waiting in the hall after a surgery. The nurse was trying so hard to make me comfortable. I told her she was the best nurse I had ever had. She was so happy to hear that, that she bragged to another nurse about what I said to her.

Nurses are great people!
 
Barry, I do not believe there is any excuse for the way you were treated. You have a right to information such as your blood pressure. Nursing is a very hard job (I am married to a nurse) but ignoring patients is not acceptable and they should be held accountable. One of the most prestigious awards a hospital can receive is the Magnet Award, which is given for outstanding nursing. Hospitals work hard to receive that award. Barry, that is obviously not true at the hospital you were at. Those making excuses for the way you were treated should be ashamed of themselves.
Out of curiosity, what hospital were you at?
 
Queen Elizabeth Hospital, Birmingham. I don't think what happened to me was much different from what I hear from other people who have been in this and other hospitals. There are much worse cases reported in the newspapers where damage has resulted to the patients.
 
@BarrySimpson94 Sorry to hear that. If it's any consolation I had an awful experience at Salisbury District Hospital. I did have a great experience at University College Hospital London though but I thank that just proved to me it's all about postcode - if you're outside of London, forget about it.
 
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