Smart Briefs

@bobsmith
I didn't know about this but apparently it is available here. Mostly in use in nursery homes. It is viewed as a device to cut on diapers and therefore cut on time for nurses to change diapers on patients. Of course, a device which costs money has to cut on costs somewhere else. It is not considered as a help for patients but to prevent diapers to be changed before maximum saturation.
 
@Eden98 You mention in your post about your skin staying dry being the most important thing. As that correlates to brief saturation, what saturation level would you say you typically change at? Is it when the brief is entirely full, or would you say closer to 50%, etc... (I know that can be hard to know exactly, but just as an estimate).
 
@ajcollette1
It depends on my daily activity. My night time diaper can be up to 75% of technical saturation level. I think any higher is not possible anyway because of anatomy. But when I sit down a lot my skin stays wet with much less saturation. I am incontinent for many years and know partly out of experience when to change my diaper and partly I have to check. Still I sometimes have leaking or irritated skin. The way to benefit patients instead of healthcare companies in my opinion is the placement of the sensor or sensors. The focus should be on the skin, and not on the diaper.
 
I change as soon as I have any sense of wetness, but that’s because I have that luxury. My leaks are not constant.
 
snow said:
I change as soon as I have any sense of wetness, but that’s because I have that luxury. My leaks are not constant.
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May daily diapers (Attends Flex) hav a quite high degree of super absorber (SAP), which means that liquid is poured quite quick into the diaper (and being hold there), while the (inner) surface feels dry to your skin very soon. This works well, also for multiple wettings, as long as there is still unused SAP available. If all of the SAP is used up, the diaper starts to feel damp/wet, and that's the time I change. Usually it's then saturated around 75 to 80% of the max!
 
So to be honest - I don't really believe in the sense of such a sensor either. For me personally, such a thing makes no sense because I now have a pretty good feeling for whether I need to change or not.

In addition, I do not think that you can achieve a particularly high precision in the detection. I think that in case of doubt it gives the message too early that the capacity is exhausted.

For nursing homes there are - at least in Europe - already some model tests. Here, however, it is often a real patient tracker, which can also transmit the position of the patient (sitting / lying), temperature and the location, and also has a fall detection. However, as far as I know, this has never really caught on because the technology was insufficient compared to the achievable savings and the safety gain (too expensive, too unreliable).

What I would actually find helpful is - as Snow has already noted - a measurement of what I have lost in an episode. But that is technically hardly possible - at least I don't know how.

Moreover I think it would make much more sense if more was developed in the area of detecting the current blader level. There are already some products on the market but there is still a lot of room for improvement. If I had such a (functioning) device I could probably do without the aids or would at least consume significantly less.
 
I think it would be a great idea. I find it really difficult when my doctors or specialists want me to keep a bladder diary. Like when I wake up and I have to fill out the diary about what time and how much for each time…. I was sleeping, how do I know, unless I’ve had a dry night!!! But it would have to be cheap and easy to use.
 
I love your idea. As a caregiver for my mother who has late stage dementia and is severely incontinent, any products that can help manage the situation are greatly appreciated.

I have used Lumi by Pampers in desperation, and I was surprised to find it was helpful in alerting us to when my mom needed changing, especially during times when we had no plans to change her. For example, times when we had just changed her then were getting ready to do some other things, Lumi was helpful for instances like this where she had another episode shortly after the fact, and we probably would not have checked her again as soon had it not been for Lumi alerting us to the wetness. However, Lumi did have issues like false alarms and the fact that once the battery died we could no longer replace it ourselves (you just have to buy a new sensor as it’s good for only three months). It seems Lumi has been discontinued by Pampers, as there’s no website anymore and you can’t buy the product any longer.

I called Abena US and was told the product with the sensor is still in testing, so it is not yet available for sale. There’s no ETA but you can check back on the website abenausa.com. I am eagerly awaiting your product and would be happy to pilot test anything with my mom, should you need participants. Best of luck to you!
 
@Shk Somewhere out there, diapers exist that do come with a fill sensor. I’ve seen people talk about them before. Try calling NorthShore, Confidry, Unique Wellness, Tranquility, your mom’s urologist, a nursing home facility, etc. Google “adult diaper distributors” or “adult diapers manufacturers” (I don’t know them all by any means) try to find one of the other ones out there that will tell you when it’s full. @DPCARE do you know if a diaper with a sensor for when it’s full?
 
snow said:
@Shk Somewhere out there, diapers exist that do come with a fill sensor. I’ve seen people talk about them before. Try calling NorthShore, Confidry, Unique Wellness, Tranquility, your mom’s urologist, a nursing home facility, etc. Google “adult diaper distributors” or “adult diapers manufacturers” (I don’t know them all by any means) try to find one of the other ones out there that will tell you when it’s full. @DPCARE do you know if a diaper with a sensor for when it’s full?
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over the years I have seen many attempts at a "SMART DIAPER" or a "SENSOR DIAPER" for infants, children, and even adults in different configurations including diapers with built-in sensors and some types of external there are many types of bedwetting alarms including underwear with built-in sensor wires and there is even a brand called Pjama that has absorbent pajama pants in both shorts and long pants with optional built-in alarm sensors

here are some links I found








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Thanks @DPCARE @snow & @Shk. Love the discussion and insights, and appreciate you taking the time to post. I'll keep you posted on what we're developing once we're a little further along... but making good progress :)
 
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