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What about penis length(size) loss. I didn't see any comments on this. I saw comments about penis shrinkage at https://www.statnews.com/2017/02/13/penis-shrinkage-prostate-cancer/
I think that most urologist fail to mention this side effect. I spoke with my doctor's office about shrinkage today and was told that that shrinkage is definitely going to happen. I'm interested in hearing your comments about the shrinkage side effect. RP scheduled for Wednesday.
 
I have suffered shrinkage after surgery, but I think it is as much from lack of use as it is a side effect of surgery. Tablets didn't work very well for me and injections proved to be too painful. I do use a pump, but probably not often enough. I wish you good luck wiyh your RP and hope that you will be one of men with minimal side effects.
 
I experienced what was to me a lot of shrinkage immediately following surgery. It has improved from the initial amount but there has still been some loss in overall size. Not terrible but I think most men see any as too much.

Like with the ED and incontinence, I view it as a trade off to get rid of the cancerous prostate.
 
After my prostatectomy/diverticulectomy over 5 years ago, my penis resembles in size to that of a prepubescent 12-year-old, and my incontinence is like a 2-year-old. I'm 75. Life goes on.
 
As others have mentioned, my doctor did not warn me about shrinkage. I had significant shrinkage after RP with very little improvement for the first year. Now at about 18 months post-surgery, I am closer to normal -- maybe 80% or so. Urologist now says I could try vacuum pump, etc., which I am not going to do, but frequent manipulation & stretching helps. Use it or lose it. As Alh63 wrote, it's a trade-off. At least I won't die from prostate cancer.
 
Well, Wednesday, I'll be joining you guys with real world experience. At this point, I'm so ambivalent about the whole ordeal and the aftermath. Just pray for me guys.
 
Try a restorex device. There is a recent study showing potential for good effect after RP although a small sample size.
 
I was informed pre-surgery and it did happen. So far still cancer free. Looks like a trade off for a chance to live longer.
 
My urologist denied anything he did made my penis shrink. My GP said several patients very strongly noted that their penis shrunk.

The penis is outside the pelvic floor and it would seem that the penis should not shrink. Mine did about 1.5 inches and at 2 years post surgery - I am still down about half an inch.

My urologist suggested pumping starting at 2 months. FOR ME, pumping did seem to increase my leakage.

Below is a text file that I saved to be able to recount my experience with Penile Rehabilitation.


I am recounting my experience - I am NOT a medical professional.
Penile Rehab / Penile Therapy - Just my experience. In another post someone asked about Penile Therapy - I though it would be good to start a post for use to share our experience.

Updated June 29, 2022 - Prostatectomy Sept 2020 age 55; Male Urethral Sling Surgery Sept 2021

My penile rehabilitation.

1) tadalafil (generic cialis) 10 mg daily (started day catheter was removed)

2) Bathmate HydroXtreme penis pump - started at week 9

3) Trimix penial injections - started at 6 months (doctor wanted to start sooner, but I needed more time to mental adjust to inserting a needing into my penis).

At 9 1/2 months, I have some natural erections using daily 10 mg tadalafil (generic cialis purchased using GoodRx (prescription required)). I use the Bathmate HydroXtreme penis pump 3 to 5 times a week (extreme has a hand pump) (link below). I started Trimix penis injections at 6 months. Using Trimix once or twice a week, I was able to have an erection without Trimix starting around 8 months after prostatectomy. I still use the Trimix once a week (March 2021 to Sept 2021).

At 9 1/2 months, I am incontinent leaking about 20 ounces a day (4 pads a day).

The longer version of above :

1) Just after treatment (prostatectomy) Daily cialis is about getting blood flowing to the penis. It took 3 months to notice any firmness about 50%. I use GoodRx to find a good price - a grocery chain store pharmacy had the best price for me.

2) My urologist recommended the Bathmate penis pump. Unless you have a firm pelvic area, you will want the Bathmate with the hand pump - HydroXtreme. I went from 5 1/4 inches before prostatectomy down to 4 inches, then back up to 4 3/4 inches after using the Bathmate pump for 3 months.

The Bathmate HydroXtreme pump is more about penile rehabilitation than producing an erection to constrict (ring to hold erection) and try to use for sex.

I sit on the corner of my tub with cups of warm water to fill the cylinder (about 100 degree). The instruction are to pump for 3 minutes, massage for 2 minutes (I use shampoo plus conditioner to reduce friction), and repeat twice for a total of 3 times 15 minutes.

The Bathmate uses water in the cylinder and seems to work on girth more. I am not looking to get bigger than I was, just to restore my pre prostatectomy size.

Bathmate website - sign up with your email to get 20% to 30% off.
Get the Xtreme because of the hand pump. I purchased the comfort cushions to reduce the chance of pulling a testicle into the pump (very painful). The size of the cushion ring goes with the size of the pump.



YouTube search for instruction - note - most are not using the pump for rehabilitation.

I also purchased the Vacurect. I used it a few time with the rings, but the ring to hold an erection was to constricting. I also used it a few times for blood flow (pump 2 minutes, release 2 minutes). I prefer the Bathmate.



3) Trimix injections - I had a difficult time starting and using these. I was shaking inserting the syringe at first. Do NOT use an auto injector - it was not the thing for me to do. I had to stop for a while because I was putting too much mental pressure on myself to use the Trimix when I was not ready.

I also had concerns about using Trimix for every erection or orgasm. I would use Trimix, then not feel like trying for an orgasm for 5 days. That was okay. After 6 weeks on Trimix, I noticed on the days trying for an orgasm without Trimix that my erections were getting firmer and at 8 weeks of using ( month 8 ) I was getting to 90% hard.

Trimix is ordered from a compounding pharmacy. It comes in a 5 ml bottle. My initial does of 0.15 cc or 0.15 ml produced a 6 hour erection. Some member in the Facebook group (link below) also reported that they had to return to the doctors office. Make sure you get your initial dose in the morning so that if there is a problem, you can return to the doctor. After 4 hours, I contacted my doctor - I took 4 30 mg Sudafed (the 4 hour pill not the 12 hour pill).

I found that 0.05 cc gave me a 4 hour erection in the beginning. You can prefill a few syringes. I found that adding an extra 0.05 cc for storage. Before use, you shake the syringe and squirt out the extra trimix. (Trimix is compounded and needs to be shaken before each use for better results.)

Trimix tips
0) Trimix is stored in the refrigerator or freezer
1) comes in a 5 ml vial
2) make sure the order comes with 20 to 40 syringes
3) Ask the doctor to include the "Undo" injectable or pills so that you do not have to go to the emergency room.
4) Have 30 mg generic Sudafed tablets on hand (After my 5th time injecting, I started taking FOUR 30 mg Sudafed tablets after one hour.)
5) I found eating and drinking 32 ounces of water worked better than the Sudafed at deflating the erection. Part of it is that I am taking my attention away from the erection. I will watch an hour of Television.

I signed up for too many Facebook Groups and had to select a few that were more suited for me. Some groups as new members join will trigger PTSD for reliving the post prostatectomy trauma, sadness, and anger of the side effects of prostate cancer and prostate cancer treatment.

Facebook Groups - these are Prostate Cancer Groups that are for members only - you have to join the group and your messages will only appear in the group and not on your Facebook home page.






Search Facebook Groups
 
I have experienced shrinkage as well as peyronie's. My surgeon seemed surprised by the peyronie's, but he recently said that I should regain normal size after a while. So far, I am 14 months post-surgery. I have lost length and girth. I self-stimulate to keep blood flowing to the area, but it isn't as fun as it used to be.
 
Hello,

Been seeing there's some activity on this thread - as that and continence issues seem to be a main concern when it comes to Men's Health (Medicine that nulls sexual drive and causes ED seems to be a big concern as well).

Anyway, there was post further up that talked about the benefits of being cancer free. And regardless of any trial, side effect, and anything that comes with surgery - the blessing is the chances of living a much longer, more beautiful, and cancer free life.

And I think that is the biggest (no pun intended) gift that anyone could give someone and that God can bless you with. Amen.

Blessings In Christ,
Honeeecombs
 
That's what we are there for. Mutual support where we can help anyway we can.

Blessings In Christ,
Honeeecombs
 
The urethra is cut just below the prostate, the remaining, shortened urethra is reattached to the bladder. The urethra is shorter by the size of the prostate. If the prostate is enlarged, more urethra is lost. Am I confused?
 
It was explained to me that the penis needs constant blood flow to avoid atrophy of the organ. Prolonged ED can cause atrophy of the penis because of the lack of blood flowing into the penis chambers similar to an injury to a muscle that effects blood flow and the use of a limb. I was fortunate enough to have nerve-saving procedure performed during my prostate removal, even though I was 72 at the time. I started on 5 mg of Tadalafil after the cath was removed and started using a penis pump twice a day for 3 minutes to have the negative pressure pump blood through my penis on a daily basis. I'm 2 years post-surgery and have an active sex life like I had pre-surgery.

I mention these facts because I want give people some hope post-surgery. Speak to your surgeon about the possibility of saving the nerves when removing the prostate. What I understand is some surgeons don't see saving the nerves has a high priority. Seek out a surgeon who goes that extra mile.
 
maureen2623 said:
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I mention these facts because I want give people some hope post-surgery. Speak to your surgeon about the possibility of saving the nerves when removing the prostate. What I understand is some surgeons don't see saving the nerves has a high priority. Seek out a surgeon who goes that extra mile.

My urologist went the extra mile for my Interstim Test. He was very knowledgeable and made sure I was going through the proper procedures when laying down, sitting, showering, etc so that I would get the best results possible. Not only that, but took the time to make sure the hooks were placed correctly on my nerves so that I had a lower chance of them getting disconnected.

I emplore anybody reading this to talk to your doctor/specialist in regards to your concerns as if you ask they may be willing to go the extra mile just like what @maureen2623 has said.

Very good post. Thank you for sharing.

Blessings In Christ,
Honeeecombs
 
rogersk, I have been told that my prostate is humongous.. so I'm possibly in for a major reduction... Also guys, my urologist is very good and he definitely does nerve sparing; however, the cancer is so bad on the right side of my prostate(2 x Gleason 4+4 / 80%)and about to break through the prostate capsule that there is little hope of saving the nerve on that side for fear of failing to remove even the smallest spec of cancer. I'm fairly certain that the right nerve will have to go. Thanks guys, I can always count on you for invaluable knowledge as I prepare to embark on my journey Wednesday. I welcome any words of wisdom regarding preoperative preparatory action or activities that I should undertake. As always, I need and welcome your prayers.
 
Bgh said:
rogersk, I have been told that my prostate is humongous.. so I'm possibly in for a major reduction... Also guys, my urologist is very good and he definitely does nerve sparing; however, the cancer is so bad on the right side of my prostate(2 x Gleason 4+4 / 80%)and about to break through the prostate capsule that there is little hope of saving the nerve on that side for fear of failing to remove even the smallest spec of cancer. I'm fairly certain that the right nerve will have to go. Thanks guys, I can always count on you for invaluable knowledge as I prepare to embark on my journey Wednesday. I welcome any words of wisdom regarding preoperative preparatory action or activities that I should undertake. As always, I need and welcome your prayers.

Hey @bgh;

I have a question. I saw your post and got wondering; (I'm sorry if I'm lack of knowledge - prostate issues are not my scope or something I've experienced) but is there medicinal treatments that can be used to shrink the prostate vs. more invasive measures such as cutting or removing all together?

I'm just curious - I know I have to be mindful as most men come here to the forums either post surgery or at there only few options pre surgery - but I know there are medicines/drugs to shrink other things such as cancer growths, tumors, and cysts. Didn't know if that was the same for prostate issues as well.

Blessings In Christ,
Honeeecombs
 
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