I know what you mean. For me, it's all over the map- literally everyday is different. But there are those days on which I notice that I'm voiding and there hasn't been any urge leading up to the episode- and, I can't slow it down which I usually can, about mid-stream... it's at those moments I begin to question my choice of protection for the day. One cannot wear premium quality briefs all the time- (or at least THIS one can't afford to, anyway) and most days, I don't need to. Unfortunately, that need is only determined in hind-sight ('Gee, I wish I'd been wearing something more absorbent...') but, alas, this is the life of the incontinent.