@wyr13 “i think i lost track of the main subject of the post,” Yep, you sure did!
I never, ever said I expected someone else to to pay for ***my*** school loan of a pisspoor $10,000 (compared the $90,000 I paid as I went). I don’t!!! You’re right; I made the choice to go to school and to get the school loan. The problem is that the entire school loan system needs to be fixed so that the cost is not so high and so they don’t trick you. They even lied in the fine print! They told me my interest rate was fixed; they lied! Since you don’t have a school loan, because you never got a higher education, you totally don’t get it: school loans are very corrupt. *That’s* the problem people complain about and that’s why those of with school loans are pissed: we were misled. Almost anyone who had a school loan in the past 40 years was deceived. I’ve paid back my $10,000. In fact, I’ve paid more than the original $10,000! Yet I still owe $19,000! So yeah, some of us want reparations for having been lied to, and been charged illegal interest. You don’t actually read the news or you would understand that’s the issue, not trying to get a handout m. You’re clearly ultra right-wing and convinced anyone with a school loan just wants a hand out: think again!!!! Give me a break! I don’t personally know *anybody* who is expecting a free school loan forgiveness hand out from the government. I don’t think you understand that with school loans, you never pay down more than anything except interest, and you earn interest when life makes you take a forbearance. You earn interest on interest on interest. They’re loans that would never be legal in the mortgage system, for instance, nor the car loan system. But when they’re selling you the loans, they make you believe that they’re the easiest and most fair loans across the land. They promise you that you’ll be able to work in your chosen field, which is a complete lie. When they first offer you the school loans, it doesn’t sound like any of that is the way it’s going to go. That’s what people are pissed off about: we were lied to about the terms and nature of the loans, even in writing. THAT is what needs to be fixed. Higher education should also be nonprofit, unlike entities like Harvard that sit on huge, huge piles of investments and savings, while continuing to rip students off. Just like public elementary school is nonprofit, so should be higher education.
Don’t put words in my mouth and say I expect taxpayers to pay for ***MY*** education, which cost me close to $100,000 that ***I*** paid as I went along by working more than full time while I was at UNI, the entire time, and getting perfect grades at the same time, too. I barely slept for a couple of decades. Not *one* of my other friends in UNI even had a part-time job! Did I ever ask you, or anybody else, to reimburse me for that $100,000, or the $10,000 I originally borrowed or the $19,000 I somehow still owe? No, not at all!!! So back off!
When we’re running out of essential workers like doctors and nurses who do disgusting jobs that very few of us can actually handle doing, like working around death 24/7, just because their education costs them over $250,000 and it really is a type of education where you cannot work while you attend that school, then their tuition needs to be free, or very much decreased, rather than cost hundreds of thousands of dollars. you didn’t have to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars for the privilege of going in the Navy, did you? No! So why should an architect have to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars in education to be able to do his profession? I have a couple of friends who paid about half a million each to become doctors. They will never be rich because of their school loans, and because doctor salaries have dramatically decreased over the past decade. A psychiatrist who gets $250,000-$500,000 of school loan debt and spent 12 years of their life in ultra-intense higher education and interning, will never make more than $90,000 in today’s market. Why would anybody go to medical school then?! I don’t think anybody actually wants to be a doctor; they’re just people who think they want to be rich. But when you remove the possibility of being rich from being a doctor, and instead you make them go into half a million of debt to be a doctor, no wonder nobody’s in med school!
Utah has the largest population under the age of 18, yet we have just two child psychiatrists currently working in the entire state because there just are not very many psychiatrists anymore! The only doctors who are making a lot of money are radiologists and anesthesiologists. But we all need many other kinds of physicians. Utah has the highest quantity of per capita population under the age of 18, yet we currently only have two child psychiatrists in the entire state because there are just not very many psychiatrists anymore, anywhere! The only doctors who are making a lot of money are radiologists and anesthesiologists, who make $25,000-$350,000. But we all need many other kinds of physicians in our lives, not just radiologists and anesthesiologists. Since doctors and nurses save lives, I’m just saying, I think their tuition needs to be dramatically reduced, if not entirely forgiven, because of the nature of the work they do, and their value to all of society.
You got really lucky. Most people who started out like you did wouldn’t end up where you are, especially not somebody of the current median age’s generation. Anybody graduating from high school these days really needs a minimum of a bachelors degree to earn just the average, low-class income to be able to barely be able to afford the outrageous housing and food costs these days. Just because you manage engineers doesn’t mean you’re an engineer yourself; engineers have masters degrees and official licensure. Since you admit to not having gone to higher education, you’re clearly not an actual engineer.
To become licensed, engineers must complete a four-year college degree, work under a Professional Engineer for at least four years, pass two intensive competency exams and earn a license from their state's licensure board. Then, to retain their licenses, PEs must continually maintain and improve...
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“Engineers must complete a minimum of a four-year college degree, work under a Professional Engineer for at least four years, pass two intensive competency exams and earn a license from their state's licensure board. Then, to retain their licenses, PEs must continually maintain and improve their skills throughout their careers.”
“To use the Professionsl Engineer seal, engineers must complete several steps to ensure their competency.
-Earn a four-year degree in engineering from an accredited engineering program
-Pass the Fundamentals of Engineering (FE) exam
-Complete four years of progressive engineering experience under a PE
-Pass the Principles and Practice of Engineering (PE) exam
@tripichick Why didn’t you or your partner have health insurance when you had kids? How irresponsible. Why, after having one disabled child, did you go on to having another, knowing it would likely also be disabled? That’s just cruel. You shouldn’t have kept those children if you couldn’t afford to take care of them or yourselves properly; they should have been placed up for adoption on the day they were born.
Nobody needs to pee in your pants in your car; there is always a public place to pee somewhere. Sorry to hear you were homeless - I was almost there once myself so I understand how quickly and easily it can happen, particularly with disability. It sounds like something else such as drug addiction was likely happening, too. There are bushes everywhere, rest stops, gas stations, McDonald’s. If you’re in so much poverty that you have to reuse your disposable diapers (impossible!!!) and pee your pants, how do you have a computer and access to the Internet to be able to use this website, and the funds to be able to host your own website to sell your potholders? If you have enough money to buy the weed you’re such a fan of, you can afford to buy clean diapers.