arsTECNiCA Arricle - Bladder and Brain

Their articles are hard to read on a phone unless you flip your phone horizontal. And yes, it’s a wonderful news source I trust which I’ve followed for the past decade.
 
Wow this is quite alot of information!will need morectime to sort it through but its so well written for the average reader
Thank you!

On this subject of over active bladder and the brain
i can say with certainty that when i wear/wore a diaper during the day (now not as im doing well with queritin) i found my bladder would surge and release quite freely was though my BRAIN was aware there was no need to hold back in the comfort of my home working or entertaining myself.

If i am out and about i still wear a diaper but have no need of it as if my BRAIN is aware it is not apropriate and i can go five or six hours but empty bladder as soon as im home.

This might be covered in the section of article i havent read yet sorry! Back to work after this sneak peek
 
Great news, really (being sarcastic):

“Developing better drugs has proven so challenging that all major pharmaceutical companies have abandoned the effort.”

That’s okay because all we need is Botox but the huge majority of people are way too scared to bother to try it.

@Maymay941 It sounds like you may be one of the people for whom incontinence is only in their head. I think Quercitin is giving you a placebo pill effect but there’s nothing wrong with that.

Screw the scientist in the article who says, “We don’t have to live with pain or discomfort.” WRONG, when your nerves are crushed between the bones of your spine and pelvis and you’re bone-on-bone in every one of your body joints, damn straight you’re confined to excruciating pain for the rest of your life. You don’t just think your way out of that kind of pain. Saying chronic pain isn’t real is asinine and beyond insulting. That’s like telling a depressive they can just “think” their way out of depression when they very well likely need an anti-depressant. We all know we can’t just “think” our incontinence out of our brain. If that were possible, we all would’ve done it already.

I’m also not a fan of torturing cats on behalf of human science. Mice, fine, but not cats.

It’s an interesting article overall.
 
@sport The successful company is the one that will be able to incorporate neuro diversity into their workforce. My daughter’s capstone training project was just that subject matter. However it makes the attached article seem short. Sorry I do not have access to share.

@snow: My son always says to read the comments with an article. I missed until you pointed it out.
 
A couple of weeks ago I was driving back from the lake with a friend of mine who downed a couple of beers before we left. So now every 15 minutes he wants me to stop 'cause he needs to pee. When he requested the fourth pee stop I politely but firmly suggested that he should definitely toughen-up and start training his bladder. I am not sure what scientists say about suggestion like that to a person with a full bladder who's teeth are swimming but I can tell you one thing.. I have witnessed a transformation of a good man into a Satan. Kid you not ... I was scared for my life .. Only by a miracle I arrived back home without the need of medical assistance or a priest specializing in Exorcism. Live and learn... it was a very educational weekend.
 
Sorry I’ve been MIA for a bit, but I’ve been dealing with a new level of HELL so to speak and right now after 30+ years of being incontinent my bladder has been about the easiest thing on my mind at this point.
Snow is so spot on with her synopsis of “You don’t have to live with pain etc.”.That is the biggest CROCK OF BS I’ve ever heard!
This was probably paid for by one of the groups like Sackler Family(OxyContin)or CVS / Caremark that now have to pay $Billions in fines for all the damage they caused by making opiates easier to get than a can of beer!
Most of you have guessed it already, but the average payout to each addict will be about $880.00 out of $BILLIONS of dollars in fines paid to our Federal Government! What a joke, you can’t get a bed in a hospital for $800 per night!
After 37 years of fighting it since my accident and too many surgeries to count to stay off pain killers, if I didn’t take them now I would never get out of bed again. My body is now literally taring itself apart….
I may have mentioned it in the past, but I had an allergic reaction to a new medication 2.5/years ago, now I have mini-strokes or TIA’s that in the last year the associated “Muscle Spasms” have twisted my spine and blown a total of 12 discs from my skull to my hips, fractured my wrist, blown out my right elbow, both shoulders are severely damaged, hyperextended both knees, even torn ligaments in my ankles & feet! One JERK alleged Doctor had the pomposity to tell me I shouldn’t have wasted all that time building muscle mass and focused more on stretching? I would have beat him with my crutch, but he ran out of the room!
Sorry for such a negative post, but we all have to stand up against insanity like this. It’s no different than a doctor telling you,”you really don’t have to pee your pants, just hold it you’re a grown up”?
I wish you all well! PAIN IS VERY REAL!
 
@DWLCPAJD - Hi DW - I found that article very interesting. The human body really is a marvel. - maybe except for when it's not working. I was not surprised to read about the brain/bladder connection, though I can understand why most people would reduce bladder function as being a simple on/off switch. That could easily be assumed if it was working as it should normally. - which then of course makes it NOT simple as everyone on this forum
is very aware. - The part about anticholinergic drugs influencing cognitive decline interesting, because bladder medications are high on the list of those drugs. I suppose you could almost accept that side effect if those medications really fixed IC, but they don't work. The problem becomes especially for older folks how many other medications are you taking which add to the cognitive decline. From what I have read, discontinuing those drugs does reverse it. Though it is hard to find a master list of anticholinergic drugs. I did find one medication - Baclofen that I was taking for my back was on a list I found that was considered "moderate" in affecting cognitive decline - so I stopped taking it. - I started checking all my husband's meds, because any cognitive decline side effect isn't necessarily mentioned. Thankfully I only found one of his that was considered "low" - Sorry that I went off on a tangent. That really was not the point of the article, and at that a small point. Some of the comments were interesting. Thanks for posting. - Pam
 
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