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There are many women on this site that are either mothers are taking care of someone as a wife or mother would. Today I was giving closing prayer to my adult Sunday School class I prayed for all of mothers and mothers who have passed. My son and I also talked to his late mother’s mother (I am fortunate to have two mother-in-laws)

Later today after celebrating Mother’s Day with my loving wife, her mother and our son and our daughter remotely I realized we needed to recognize the mothers of NAFC.

So on behalf of all the sons and daughters you have cared for and your friends on NAFC I offer you a blessing. You are there for us and we try our best to be there for you. God Bless.
 
@DWLCPAJD @sarge2630 -Thankyou both. My children, grandchildren are far flung, along with my family and my husband's family - My father in law passed a year ago at almost 90. He had two wonderful 30 year marriages. My husband's Mom passed a month after she turned 50. Dad didn't have a cross thing to say about either of his wives. But, he would walk around his house yelling at both of them for leaving him. He too was wonderful. - Pam
 
@snow - Ya know altough I am a Mom - most of the time I forget about Mother's Day until my husband or kids say something. I tend to not put alot of stock in MD. To me it is how you are treated every other day of the year. - I will say that my idea of being rich is having fresh flowers every day in my house. I will throw them away one by one until they are gone. - Pam
 
@jeffswet - Oh wow jeff. Well, carnations are great because they do last. I do love tulips. Would love to go to the Netherlands and see a field of them. I don't know, I love them all because they make whatever room they are in smell so good. - On the day of our 25th ( working on 43) anniversary,my husband sent me roses from work (also the guy who gave me flowers for my first colonoscopy) - At the time that the doorbell rang, I was literally on my hands and knees cleaning the kitchen floor. Truly, I felt like Cinderella. - Pam
 
Pammy53 said:
@jeffswet - Oh wow jeff. Well, carnations are great because they do last. I do love tulips. Would love to go to the Netherlands and see a field of them. I don't know, I love them all because they make whatever room they are in smell so good. - On the day of our 25th ( working on 43) anniversary,my husband sent me roses from work (also the guy who gave me flowers for my first colonoscopy) - At the time that the doorbell rang, I was literally on my hands and knees cleaning the kitchen floor. Truly, I felt like Cinderella. - Pam
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@Pammy53 I’m the same way, dear, I keep every last stem and petal as long as possible to savor every last wee of joy and delight.

I had a boyfriend once who brought me one to two dozen roses every two weeks. I never once took hug gifts for granted, and I loved them all.

Getting flowers is one of my favorite things, ever, even when I’m doing so for myself. I think if you’re a female, you’d do best to accept the fact that the most common person who is going to get yourself flowers, or your girlfriends. Why fight it and wish for falsehoods like men buying women flowers? Best just accept it and move on! The hunger, you are in life that you do it, the better off and happier you’ll be! I make sure my girlfriends get plenty of flowers - For their birthdays, when they’re sick, or just for any reason at all just to say thank you. I agree with you, Pam, that it’s better to get les fleurs for “no reason” or for a kind of unusual reason like a colonoscopy. BUT NO MATTER THE OCCASION. FLOWERS ARE ALWAYS WORTH BOTH GIVING AND RECEIVING.

I know so many men who have stubborn policies of, “Oh, I never send/give flowers.” One of my best male friends recently said this to me after another of our mutual friend’s (a girl’s) father died. I asked him why he didn’t send our friend flowers (or a plant, food basket, fruit basket, chocolates, etc). I spent $750 on flowers and a food bouquet, as well as purchasing them a catered meal. He gave me that egotistical, typical excuse of “I don’t send flowers.” The dude is a tech multimillionaire and can absolutely afford to send people flowers - I might’ve been able to afford to get my knee replacement last year if I hadn’t sent those flowers and food basket to my best friend and her family, but I have no regrets about what I did; it was incontestably the best thing to do. With a bit of rage in my voice to my male bestie, I said “What the hell do you mean you don’t you send flowers?” and he said, “My ex-wife told me that no women ever actually want flowers.” You bet I set him straight on that. I said, “*THOSE* are exactly the women who want flowers the most and you absolutely should always send flowers. You didn’t give her flowers once in your marriage and you’re divorced now, right? I rest my case!”

@jeffswet I love lilies, pink-and-white ones that smell so lovely. Plain white “Easter” lilies ell too much. Orange, yellow, or magenta lilies are too devoid of smell but are certainly dainty. I also love purple Japanese irises. They’re kind of like the praying mantis of flowers. I like roses where each rose is half pink and half white, or half-red mixed with half-yellow. I love magenta or turquoise colored snapdragons and blue hydrangeas. I think peonies and carnations are pretty to fill in spaces. During the spring time, I very much adore tulips of every color and daffodil. Though both of those expire quickly, they’re still worth buying. I didn’t see any of those for sale this year for some reason and now it’s past their season already. Oh well! I love entrancing Dahlias of any color; the same thing goes with Calla Lillies: the shape matters more than the color. I enjoy begonias as well. My least favorite flower of all time are probably Marigolds. Hyacinth make a beautiful bunch, indeed! Delphiniums and/or freesias provide the most stunning delicacies of shades of blue, my favorite color. I find cornflower and croci lovely but they’re more of a ground over than a bouquet flower, So they could work in a small bouquet. Alstroemerias are used as filler in most bouquets and are often the last fleurs standing, aren’t they, @Pammy53? Eryngiums provides a beautiful lavender color and a spiky feel to a nice autumn or desert bouquet with other blues and yellows. They conserve to remind you that nature has its bites, even in it’s flowers.

I must say I’m not a fan of black roses or black tulips, or even dark purple varieties. To me it just kind of defeats the purpose.

As for what I personally grow at home, I’m a big fan of a number of orchids that I’ve had for close to a decade. I’ve also got some False Shamrock growing in my kitchen with my orchids and a day Delphinium. Because California is loaded with Agapanthus (Egyptian of the Nile), I am also growing those in my kitchen. One small plant has grown three sets of three flower stocks, but the other, huge one has never grown any flowers though it thrives spuriously.

@jeffswet What kind do you like?
 
@snow - After reading your post - Wow! snow, you really do know your flowers. - I kinda get what you mean about the men that say "I don't give flowers" It’s probably just because they forget. - given all the flower holidays that are clearly pushed towards the woman/ women in their life. Even if any woman says "Don't give me flowers - do it anyway. Maybe you will have a fight or the best kiss/hug/etc. - As far as asking me about all the fillers used in floral arrangements... Um no. I don't know what they are, but given that you know that, I probably have seen them, but didn't have a clue. - I love flowers. The real live plants that people have sent me, though I try.. end up dead. We currently have a Peace Lily (I think) that is still alive. We put it on the front porch during the day, which it apparently likes. I probably need to repot it, but don't know how. I'm afraid it will go into shock and die. Need to check YouTube. - I was going to ask you if you were a gardener. But, the end of your post answered my question. - Pam
 
My favorite is portulaca, but they don't grow very high, so are probably not used in bouquets. Roses, carnations and anything delicate are always beautiful. I have a Christmas cactus that blooms every few months and I like those as well.
 
@jeffswet - okay jeff - you have me stumped. Probably not snow, but I will probably definitely will have to Google the flowers that you mentioned. - The fact that snow asked you was kind of a surprise, but fun. - Thank you jeff for playing along :)) - Pam
 
@jeffswet I looked up your flowers and recognized them - the spidery ground cover or pot variety of portulaca. Pretty flowers. I am not particularly a fan of cacti myself, but I do think your Christmas cacti is one of the more attractive ones and I can see the similarity in the flower size and shape to the same portulaca you enjoy. Pretty flowers, all of them.

@Pammy53 Thank you for your compliments but I’m no pro, lol - that’s my mom. I used to say she was a tidy English gardener, but then I learned that English gardeners tend to be a little bit sloppy, a little more nature-like in their plantings, so I guess she’s a tidy French gardener even though she’s from England herself. Her father/my grandfather was an immaculate gardener as was her sister. So I’ve grown up hearing her/their terminology. My dad, as an architect, also knows a lot about landscaping, so I’ve heard him talk about plants most of my life, too, though he usually talks about a different kind of plant than a flower.

I’ve been fascinated by flower bouquets for as long as I can remember. I can very clearly recall the first three bouquets I received before age 18.

We have a really hard time getting things to grow here in Salt Lake at 5,000 feet above sea level and with temperatures ranging from 110°F in the heat of the summer to 50°F at night. It’s an intense desert with very little natural precipitation in the summer (usually just an inch from June through September, and 14” throughout the rest of the year). We’re under a lot of pressure not to water lawns or gardens anymore thanks to the dire droughts of the past decade, though last year was a record-wet year with flooding (about 230% above average). This year was also an above-average wet year (about 130%). Even with these two good water years, our biggest reservoirs remain far from full but at least our smaller, recreational reservoirs are at a healthier capacity again.

Our low winter temperatures and mere 6.5 hours of winter daylight (the 11,000+ feet mountains surrounding our valley very dramatically, negatively impact the scant time of winter daylight here) also affect our ability for plants to survive out the year to make it back to summer.

From October through April, our daytime temperatures range from 30 to 40°F and our evening temperatures range from 0 to 20°F. Our average first autumn freeze occurs on October 17. During May our daytime temperatures are 40 to 50°F with evenings at 32 to 40°F. The average last frost date in spring is May 7th. This year it was May 10/11. Last year it was May 23.

Then Bam! All of a sudden it’s June and it’s 90 to 110°F by day!!!!!! Gross! It’s a hard place to live as a human, let alone a flower in the ground! We really only get about two weeks of spring and two weeks of autumn, if we’re lucky. We’re either wearing shorts and tank tops or heavy corduroy pants and 10 coats. There’s very little time for three-quarter inch sleeves and capri-length pants with say, a leightweight jean jacket.

We also have pretty crappy dirt around here. It’s dry and salty because it used to be under the bigger waters of Lake Bonneville, which was the predecessor to the current Great Salt Lake and filled this entire valley full of water. If you’ve ever wanted to see the GSL, I suggest you get out here ASAP because that thing is about to vanish forever and neither the city, state, nor federal government gives any craps.

“Soils in Salt Lake are usually alkaline with a pH of 8 or more. The water is also alkaline and will be high in salts. Alkaline soils with a high pH level above 8.0 can impact the health of some landscape plants that are sensitive to high pH soils, resulting in the immobility of iron and foliage that looks dull green or yellowish).”

So it’s hard to garden here. You really have to pay strict attention to shade and temperature zones that plants can endure. Even then, you’ll usually lose at least 4/5 of your flowers each year by early August, even if they’re supposed to be perennials. Hardly anything can survive five months of temperatures over 90°F, even in the shade.

Oh yeah, did I mention it’s dry here? Average humidity is only 14% so it’s not like Southern California’s 70% average humidity where you can have gigantic Bougainvillea and Agapanthus bushes that get all of their water just from the moisture in the air! No, you have to water *everything* here.

It’s funny because I sound like a gardener, but the fact of the matter is, I’ve only had plants for the past two years. Two years ago, I moved into a condo and I bought three potted plants for my deck in the month of September. Those were thoroughly destroyed by nature by the end of October. Last year I spent $1,500 in a manic phase of flower buying for my deck. Everything was going great and I was really, really happy after having lost two close family members that spring. But then it turns out my deck has no drainage pipe; it doesn’t have any sort of rain gutter. It’s just built at a downward slant, which I checked, is actually well within building code, so any water that comes out of my plants spills down onto my lowest neighbor’s patio below me. That’s going to happen anyway when it rains, but she blames me for it and tried to get me evicted for the water from my plants on her patio - as if i’m responsible for their being no rain gutter! Accordingly, anytime I watered the plants on my deck, they had to be moved away from the deck edge, and put into the bright sunlight where they promptly failed. I had to water less, so the few that remained then failed, also. And when water spilled, I had to use a set of eight towels to gather it up into a big bucket, them overuse my washing and drying machines to clean said towels.

So I spent last August in September with a gutted heart and an empty view devoid of flowers my big expenditure.

Crappy lesson learned :(

This year so far, all I have are my indoor plants. But my cat is dying for me to get some outdoor plants so he can hide out under them from the sun. I don’t know what to do. Last year I also tried putting the buckets of plants into empty XXXXL giant Tupperware-type storage containers buckets, but then the water in those buckets got so heavy, with my skeleton that’s turned to ash inside my living body, I don’t have the strength to dump out that water and those plants that were in those Tupperware containers just rotted, too!

I’m sure nobody has actually read through this long, irrelevant-to-the-NAFC post, but if somebody has happened to read this post and also happens to have a suggestion for how I can have plants on my deck without water running down onto my neighbors patio, I’d be thrilled to learn about it. I even had the building inspector come out here because I thought they would order the builder to install rain gutters, but nope, that didn’t happen.
 
@snow - I just reread your post. Good grief what a pain! The saying "you can't pick your neighbors or your in law's" applys no matter where you live. - The only thing I can suggest re your plants and your neighbor. - maybe talking to someone at a real live nursery that has been around awhile 🤔 They might have a few ideas. - Pam
 
@snow

They Make Lego Flowers. No worry about killing them and gives you something to build.

Yeah, I am a nerd that still loves Lego's.
 
@ThatFLGuy Me too! My parents gave me the daffodils one for my birthday. Thank you for the great suggestion. I haven’t built it yet so I should get working on that. I’ve been saving it up 🌼🌾🌝
 
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